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Too Clever by Half

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Re: Too Clever by Half

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It's really sad to see this article about animal abuse on the front page of HN.

You did not read until the part he starts drawing parallels between Bitcoin and the 2008 mortgage crash.

Nevermind that - what animal abuse? r4unwud, I didn't see any animal abuse mentioned in the article.

Re: Too Clever by Half

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You did not read until the part he starts drawing parallels between Bitcoin and the 2008 mortgage crash.

Nevermind that - what animal abuse? r4unwud, I didn't see any animal abuse mentioned in the article.

Shock collars are animal abuse.

Re: Too Clever by Half

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I really enjoyed this article.

Summary

Coyotes are too clever because they know that people shaking jars full of coins can’t hurt them. Thus the animal control patrol has to get called and when they don’t shoo, the animal control person who loves animals has to shoot the coyote.

Coyotes are winning the mini-game of each human interaction, but they are losing the meta-game of what society will do if coyotes aren’t scared.

Personal Connection

This reminds me of a turning point that I had in high school. When I was young, I would get in trouble and try to get around the rules each time I got in trouble. /“Well, technically…”/

But at some point I realized that most of the time you aren’t getting in trouble because you are breaking the rules. You are getting in trouble because you are making the rule makers unhappy. Once I had that realization I was able to focus on relationships with the rule makers and figure out what they actually cared about. This allowed me to break the rules just as much but without getting in trouble.

Re: Too Clever by Half

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I really enjoyed this article. Summary Coyotes are too clever because they know that people shaking jars full of coins can’t hurt them. Thus the animal control patrol has to get called and when they don’t shoo, the animal control person who loves animals has to shoot the coyote. Coyotes are winning the mini-game of each human interaction, but they are losing the meta-game of what society will do if coyotes aren’t sca…

The problem is that the rule makers in high schools are sometimes (often?) incredibly petty people with a very poor understanding of human psychology and communication, not tremendously much empathy for the students, and very little personal consequence when they make a mistake even if that has drastic consequences for the student (and as a result little time spent introspecting about their mistakes). I never got in particularly much trouble, but many of my friends were screwed by minor miscommunication which incompetent adults escalated beyond any reason.

And yes, under the circumstances (assuming the goal is to avoid problems, instead of to aggravate the staff, perform ad-hoc psychology experiments, or the like), any high school student should avoid contradicting the staff in public, start by acquiescing to any request that doesn’t pose an immediate injury risk, disengage quickly and completely and then marshal their parents’ help if there has been any kind of mistake that will affect them academically.

Few teenagers have figured this out though. To any high school rule makers out there, please read How to Talk So Kids Will Listen & Listen So Kids Will Talk, https://amzn.com/1451663889/ and in general, please try to treat the students with basic respect.

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This is unrelated, but they mention The Great Financial Crisis which made me remember the Recession of my youth.

It devastated my family. My father was in construction. That market seriously ebbs.

I remember a faint feeling I had back then: resentment towards families who happened to be in industries that weren’t hit.

Not because I thought it was unfair that we were hit, I just resented that they didn’t even have to notice what was happening.

And I just had to check myself about this Great Financials Crisis. Lucky timing, I have been pretty employable the last 20 years. The “crisis” was always a political skirmish to me. I cared about it, but it seemed small compared to past crises.

Just now it occurred to me though, that whatever millions of people are going through exactly what I did, their families collapsing.

And I’m the one can not notice that.

I’d like to securitize those families.

Re: Too Clever by Half

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The State still cannot tell the Coyotes from Raccoons. Especially so because neither of them show there form truly until the deed is done. Thus the Coyote population control. The utopia of a Coyote population playing the meta game will indeed happen some day - just that the time isn't right. Yet! So the same Animal Control that goes around looking for masked men with rifles, also chases those who leak the rightful information to the People. The question is not who is right - the question is are the People ready? And what's the ratio of Coyote's to Raccoons. And how exactly do you tell them apart pre-facto.

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This is unrelated, but they mention The Great Financial Crisis which made me remember the Recession of my youth. It devastated my family. My father was in construction. That market seriously ebbs. I remember a faint feeling I had back then: resentment towards families who happened to be in industries that weren’t hit. Not because I thought it was unfair that we were hit, I just resented that they didn’t even have to…

FamilICO -- pegged to the net worth of the world's poor.

Not sure I'd buy that coin.

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I really enjoyed this article. Summary Coyotes are too clever because they know that people shaking jars full of coins can’t hurt them. Thus the animal control patrol has to get called and when they don’t shoo, the animal control person who loves animals has to shoot the coyote. Coyotes are winning the mini-game of each human interaction, but they are losing the meta-game of what society will do if coyotes aren’t sca…

The problem is that the rule makers in high schools are sometimes (often?) incredibly petty people with a very poor understanding of human psychology and communication, not tremendously much empathy for the students, and very little personal consequence when they make a mistake even if that has drastic consequences for the student (and as a result little time spent introspecting about their mistakes). I never got in…

Thanks. Just bought that book (qua parent, not teacher)

Re: Too Clever by Half

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This is unrelated, but they mention The Great Financial Crisis which made me remember the Recession of my youth. It devastated my family. My father was in construction. That market seriously ebbs. I remember a faint feeling I had back then: resentment towards families who happened to be in industries that weren’t hit. Not because I thought it was unfair that we were hit, I just resented that they didn’t even have to…

FamilICO -- pegged to the net worth of the world's poor. Not sure I'd buy that coin.

If BLM and the feminists are right, the coin is undervalued.

What is the probability that they are right?

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