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HoweyCoins – An educational tool to alert investors to possible fraud

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Re: HoweyCoins – An educational tool to alert investors to possible fraud

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> There are security token ICOs which are not utility token ICOs. Ah so securities fraud instead of just plan vanilla fraud?

It depends on jurisdiction, but yes, as I understand unregistered security offering is illegal in US.

It’s illegal in every country with a developed system of securities law for a good reason.

All ICO’s are scams. Period.

Re: HoweyCoins – An educational tool to alert investors to possible fraud

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The worst of the worst are still exceptionally common though. It is by no means the exclusion.

How many ICOs actually claim to be backed by the US government? Tether and some others claimed at one time to be redeemable for USD. Also, FWIW I'm not condoning or supporting Tether.

Claiming to be redeemable isn't claiming to be backed by the US government. (USD is backed by the US government, but “redeemable FOR USD” isn't “USD”.)

Re: HoweyCoins – An educational tool to alert investors to possible fraud

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A lot of them are combination money-laundering schemes and scams. Someone who stole a bunch of shitcoins wants to "clean them up", so they create an ICO and buy their ICO-coins with stolen shitcoins. By doing this, they also inflate the "market" value of their ICO, which leads to increased popularity and others notice and throw some money in. It's not clear to me what proportion of ICOs are money-laundering vs. real…

Don't forget flight capital from China, Russia, etc.

The capital flight occurs when people buy the Ethereum or Bitcoin which they need to purchase the ICO.

Re: HoweyCoins – An educational tool to alert investors to possible fraud

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Looks like pure bullshit or utter incompetence. Yeah, your mountain is actually at 12°C, but with 50kW or more of processing power, you're actually creating an oven if you haven't got ventilation or cooling. Stupid

the biggest giveaway is the purported ROI. mining is barely profitable. the returns they promise are a big red flag

These mining ICOs are incredibly scammy. Look at what happened with Envion. 100M raised in ICO which promised huge returns. Now the founders claim the CEO had illegally taken control of the company.

It's all just smoke and mirrors. The reality is that they never had the capabilities to compete in the mining business. But they sure sold a ton of their shit tokens!

Re: HoweyCoins – An educational tool to alert investors to possible fraud

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Don't make pages like this. Just go after existing ICOs. Arrest people, prosecute people, go after people. If it's China or whatever, collaborate with China. Chinese citizens are scammed as much as US ones. Just arrest all the ICO scammers. Arrest the ERC token pumpers, arrest the exchanges.

The effort it takes to make a site like this is a tiny fraction of that involved in "going after" dozens of dodgy ICOs. Making this site couldn't possibly have impeded them in that task in any way that isn't grossly outweighed by the public good of its educational value.

True.

Re: HoweyCoins – An educational tool to alert investors to possible fraud

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> Under the Howey Test, a transaction is an investment contract if: > 1. It is an investment of money > 2. There is an expectation of profits from the investment > 3. The investment of money is in a common enterprise > 4. Any profit comes from the efforts of a promoter or third party I don't know if the crypto-currency community have a widely accepted view of how this applies to specific currencies, but I feel that "…

Most people in the crypto community know that the majority of ICOs are illegal securities offerings. And by ‘in the community’ I mean people who run funds and regularly go to industry events with other fund managers, not people subscribed to random crypto subreddits. People in the industry generally know who is dirty and likely to get indicted.

At least the people active in the crypto subreddits know it as well. Caring about it is another thing though.

Re: HoweyCoins – An educational tool to alert investors to possible fraud

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I just saw and clicked an ad for this ICO and it looks just like Howey Coin's site - https://icerockmining.io/en.html (I don't know whether this is a scam or not, i don't recommend investing or avoiding it, I just wanted to point out how similar the website looks to the howeycoins website! DYOR) (Being overly neutral for its own sake here, but it seems very questionable)

I'm surprised there isn't already a DIY ICO generator on GitHub.

I'll do you own better: https://crapcoin.solutions/

Found it on here a couple days, maybe weeks back.

Re: HoweyCoins – An educational tool to alert investors to possible fraud

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I just saw and clicked an ad for this ICO and it looks just like Howey Coin's site - https://icerockmining.io/en.html (I don't know whether this is a scam or not, i don't recommend investing or avoiding it, I just wanted to point out how similar the website looks to the howeycoins website! DYOR) (Being overly neutral for its own sake here, but it seems very questionable)

I'm surprised there isn't already a DIY ICO generator on GitHub.

There is:

http://yetanotherico.com

Re: HoweyCoins – An educational tool to alert investors to possible fraud

#130
FYI: At Bits & Blocks Press I've also put together educational booklets to alert invstors. See Best of Bitcoin Maximalist - Scammers, Morons, Clowns, Shills & BagHODLers - Inside The New New Crypto Ponzi Economics [1] or Crypto Facts - Decentralize Payments - Efficient, Low Cost, Fair, Clean - True or False? [2] or Get Rich Quick "Business Blockchain" Bible - The Secrets of Free Easy Money [3]

[1]: https://bitsblocks.github.io/bitcoin-maximalist [2]: https://bitsblocks.github.io/crypto-facts [3]: https://bitsblocks.github.io/get-rich-quick-bible

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