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Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

#81
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. New users can't access the old design at all?

https://old.reddit.com I believe it's possible to set that as a default regardless of account age. But it's a PITA.

This Chrome extension does it for you: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/old-reddit-redirec...

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

#82
post #22

Anyone from reddit's dev team reading this? Or youtube's dev team, because my question applies to both. The previous design was great. The new version of both sites is slow, sluggish and provides me with no benefit. Why was the change implemented? The previous design wasn't broken! How's the user feedback? A/B testing really indicated to you this was a good choice?! If you have any insight -- I'm sure this was a deci…

I have definitely noticed that YouTube is one of the few sites that causes my desktop to struggle when loading the page. Gmail is oddly heavy in this regard too. I worry that google might not be paying enough attention to load times or resource utilization.

I had to revert to the 'old' gmail. I mean a MBP 2017 shouldn't drop frames when scrolling emails!!

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

#84
post #28

My favorite comment from TFA: > None of your math makes sense. All your measurements have only the consumption at one exact instant, not over time, the total energy used is the integral of the energy flow over time. You'd need to measure the consumption over time, or total discharge of the battery, to actually have the energy used to load a page (in J, not W, you can't measure the energy required to load a page in W)…

Haha, yeah. I was considering jumping in with my usual "learn the difference between power (W) and energy (Wh)!" lecture, but couldn't have improved on that response. This is the same mistake typically made by the "electric vehicles will overload the grid and we'll need 500 new nuclear plants!!" folks.

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Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

#85
post #22

Anyone from reddit's dev team reading this? Or youtube's dev team, because my question applies to both. The previous design was great. The new version of both sites is slow, sluggish and provides me with no benefit. Why was the change implemented? The previous design wasn't broken! How's the user feedback? A/B testing really indicated to you this was a good choice?! If you have any insight -- I'm sure this was a deci…

I have definitely noticed that YouTube is one of the few sites that causes my desktop to struggle when loading the page. Gmail is oddly heavy in this regard too. I worry that google might not be paying enough attention to load times or resource utilization.

If you've used the new version of Adwords or Analytics, or had to administer a GApps account in the past 2 years, you've already figured out that Google does not give 2 craps about speed or optimization anymore!

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

#87
post #22

Anyone from reddit's dev team reading this? Or youtube's dev team, because my question applies to both. The previous design was great. The new version of both sites is slow, sluggish and provides me with no benefit. Why was the change implemented? The previous design wasn't broken! How's the user feedback? A/B testing really indicated to you this was a good choice?! If you have any insight -- I'm sure this was a deci…

I have definitely noticed that YouTube is one of the few sites that causes my desktop to struggle when loading the page. Gmail is oddly heavy in this regard too. I worry that google might not be paying enough attention to load times or resource utilization.

Which is really too bad because much of the world is on a connection far away from Google and a machine that most Googler's would have recycled already.

I distinctly remember when Reddit rolled out the new "mobile site" because it took multiple seconds longer to load than the previous one and now crashes my IPad 1 and is janky on my IPad 2-ish quality Galaxy Tab.

If these companies want to do something for the environment and their customers, they should make their sites blazingly fast through simplicity not lazily loaded this and that progressive client side whoochathings.

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

#88
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why was the change implemented? There's no easy back peddling from a year of development. It may be crap, but they put so much time & effort into it they can't turn back now - even if a lot of users hate it. They're also working more on becoming an Advertising platform, and this redesign allows for more flexibility there, like linkedin's auto-play videos when scrolling into view.

None of that justifies it. They wasted their time, so now everyone has to pay? I don't think so. If the old design wasn't easy to go back to, I'd only view reddit through API based things (app) at this point.

If they need the eyeballs focused on forced content, expect the API to die soon.

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

#89
post #28

My favorite comment from TFA: > None of your math makes sense. All your measurements have only the consumption at one exact instant, not over time, the total energy used is the integral of the energy flow over time. You'd need to measure the consumption over time, or total discharge of the battery, to actually have the energy used to load a page (in J, not W, you can't measure the energy required to load a page in W)…

Also, the measurement involves reloading the same page infinite number of times which is really not even remotely represents how users probably use Reddit.

May be the new design is preloading content to make the subsequent clicks faster? May be the new design enables usage of HTTP resources with better cache lifetimes?

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

#90
post #14

I do not understand what extra functionality is gained by making the site so much slower. I go on Reddit primarily for text content. Threaded comments and HTML tags. WHY does it NEED to be so SLOW? For this degree of sluggishness, it feels like you could build a site that fulfills all of reddit's functionality—and have a crypto miner running in the background.

Do you REALLY think they engineered it intentionally slow?

To switch from black/white hat hacker to tinfoil hat... who would make money from Reddit's site being slower and using more electricity?
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