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Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by blunte »

mmagin wrote: post #17
rland wrote: post #14

I do not understand what extra functionality is gained by making the site so much slower. I go on Reddit primarily for text content. Threaded comments and HTML tags. WHY does it NEED to be so SLOW? For this degree of sluggishness, it feels like you could build a site that fulfills all of reddit's functionality—and have a crypto miner running in the background.

I had the same feeling when Chase redesigned their online banking and I had to upgrade my dedicated linux banking computer from an old Lenovo Ideapad to a somewhat more powerful old Thinkpad.

Wells Fargo took a mediocre but functional site and made a slow and useless site

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by nilkn »

Between...

* feeling completely overrun with sensationalized politics;

* the new design feeling sluggish and painful even on my maxed out late-2016 MBP;

* the general community feeling more hostile and downvote-heavy than ever before;

* and the content being increasingly image-, video-, and meme-focused...

reddit has really lost a lot of its magic and appeal to me. I do still use it, but I find it almost intolerable if I'm not logged in with my very carefully curated set of subreddit subscriptions.

I don't really know what the solution is. I don't think reddit is dying, but I do think it's becoming something different, and there increasingly feels like there's space for something more like the old reddit to coexist. HN is a considerably higher quality site IMHO, but also considerably more focused and with much stronger moderation.

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by cool_shit »

I deleted my Reddit account which kept the old design on it. Now when I occasionally browse Reddit as a non-user, it looks like an awful implementation of material design with tons of wasted space. For example, I see about 1.5 cards per page on my 13" laptop. Who designed this? It is horrid and nearly unusable. Not that I'll be using Reddit that much anymore, but it's like they deprecated the desktop version for mobile-everywhere. There's a reason the form factors are different!

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by md224 »

jumpman500 wrote: post #3

What are the best Reddit clones these days? I've seen voat but heard it's overrun by the alt right. Hubski seemed interesting but basically seems dead now. Anything else out there? Reddit is really losing its appeal to me with their desktop/mobile site changes. That and I feel the contents been getting less interesting. Like it's just memes or sensational politics everywhere. Maybe I'm just getting old.

The key is subscribing to subreddits that match your interests. /r/all is like the sun: it can brighten your day, but if you stare at it you might just go blind.

Also, if you find The Next Reddit, let me know so I can build a new AskOuija there. :P

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by lucb1e »

yongjik wrote: post #28

My favorite comment from TFA: > None of your math makes sense. All your measurements have only the consumption at one exact instant, not over time, the total energy used is the integral of the energy flow over time. You'd need to measure the consumption over time, or total discharge of the battery, to actually have the energy used to load a page (in J, not W, you can't measure the energy required to load a page in W)…

Everyone's dodging the point of the post (versus the exact numbers and terminology). As I said on reddit as well:

> The issue is that the redesign uses more power across millions of devices, and that has an impact.

> I might have gotten the exact number wrong, but the exact number doesn't matter that much. It's about it being a significant difference.

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by darkstar999 »

nilkn wrote: post #42

Between... * feeling completely overrun with sensationalized politics; * the new design feeling sluggish and painful even on my maxed out late-2016 MBP; * the general community feeling more hostile and downvote-heavy than ever before; * and the content being increasingly image-, video-, and meme-focused... reddit has really lost a lot of its magic and appeal to me. I do still use it, but I find it almost intolerable…

Most of your criticisms are solved by unsubscribing from those bad subreddits like politics, funny, and all the picture/meme ones.

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by kowdermeister »

rland wrote: post #14

I do not understand what extra functionality is gained by making the site so much slower. I go on Reddit primarily for text content. Threaded comments and HTML tags. WHY does it NEED to be so SLOW? For this degree of sluggishness, it feels like you could build a site that fulfills all of reddit's functionality—and have a crypto miner running in the background.

Do you REALLY think they engineered it intentionally slow?

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by ggg9990 »

lucb1e wrote: post #40
ggg9990 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All over the world, the watt-hour is the unit of electrical power consumption among the general public.

I suppose you're right at that: by trying to dig deeper to understand it, I confused myself and stopped using what is the generally accepted standard... I guess I should indeed have used kWh.

Hey I don’t mean to pile on you. This is cool work that you did that highlights an important issue.

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by hnaccy »

frfl wrote: post #22

Anyone from reddit's dev team reading this? Or youtube's dev team, because my question applies to both. The previous design was great. The new version of both sites is slow, sluggish and provides me with no benefit. Why was the change implemented? The previous design wasn't broken! How's the user feedback? A/B testing really indicated to you this was a good choice?! If you have any insight -- I'm sure this was a deci…

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