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Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices
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Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices
#22Anyone from reddit's dev team reading this? Or youtube's dev team, because my question applies to both.
The previous design was great. The new version of both sites is slow, sluggish and provides me with no benefit. Why was the change implemented? The previous design wasn't broken!
How's the user feedback? A/B testing really indicated to you this was a good choice?!
If you have any insight -- I'm sure this was a decision made much higher up than dev -- please do share.
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#24No it doesn’t, people don’t leave their devices refreshing reddit 24/7. Also, watts aren’t joules.
> people don’t leave their devices refreshing reddit 24/7
But if the new website takes more power, and we know that there are roughly X million pageloads a month, then we know it will use a lot more, right?
> watts aren’t joules
The very definition of a Watt is one joule per second. Not the same, definitely, but it's close and in specific cases 1:1 convertible.
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#25Headline is wrong. 68GJ per month, not GW, which is roughly 26kW.
Yes. I was not sure how familiar people are with joules, so as I said in the post: > (In the headline I used GW because people are more familiar with that, and it's kind of the same.) Saying "kind of the same" won't please engineers who know what they're talking about and are used to correct units, but for the general public who won't read beyond the headline and (if I'm lucky) the conclusion, I think it's close enou…
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#26No it doesn’t, people don’t leave their devices refreshing reddit 24/7. Also, watts aren’t joules.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. I was not sure how familiar people are with joules, so as I said in the post: > (In the headline I used GW because people are more familiar with that, and it's kind of the same.) Saying "kind of the same" won't please engineers who know what they're talking about and are used to correct units, but for the general public who won't read beyond the headline and (if I'm lucky) the conclusion, I think it's close enou…
Rather than just being flat out wrong, why not use gigawatt-hours which is a well known unit.
Because I find Wh (or kWh or MWh or...) a very weird unit. The Watt is already a "per second" unit, and the appended hour makes it have a double time component in the definition. While a Wh has a simple joule value (3600 if I'm not mistaken) and so it's directly convertible, I still find it more difficult to wrap my mind around. Joules seem like a better unit, but they're not known to people... but maybe you're right and I should have picked that.
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#28My favorite comment from TFA:
> None of your math makes sense. All your measurements have only the consumption at one exact instant, not over time, the total energy used is the integral of the energy flow over time. You'd need to measure the consumption over time, or total discharge of the battery, to actually have the energy used to load a page (in J, not W, you can't measure the energy required to load a page in W).
> You just multiplied a banana times Pi. And showed the results in meters of strawberries.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rather than just being flat out wrong, why not use gigawatt-hours which is a well known unit.
Because I find Wh (or kWh or MWh or...) a very weird unit. The Watt is already a "per second" unit, and the appended hour makes it have a double time component in the definition. While a Wh has a simple joule value (3600 if I'm not mistaken) and so it's directly convertible, I still find it more difficult to wrap my mind around. Joules seem like a better unit, but they're not known to people... but maybe you're right…
All over the world, the watt-hour is the unit of electrical power consumption among the general public.