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Re: Google One is coming soon

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Post by Someone1234 » Wed, May 16, 2018, 3:27 AM UTC

LyalinDotCom wrote: post #41

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #14

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I never thought another tech company could be more awkward than Microsoft at branding. I guess it’s just hard to name things.

Yes it is and hello from someone at Microsoft who has helped brand a few things. It’s really hard problem that is not easy to describe to others but branding in huge companies like these is hell. Though worth it when we get it right and make things clear. Trust me no one here branding wants it to suck.

I'm still confused by .Net Core, .Net Framework, and .Net Standard. The diagram in this article made me ten times more confused:

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dotnet/2018/05/07/net-core-...

It seems to contradict itself so many times.

Little off-topic: Is there any work being done with Visual Studio's integrated Code Review system[0]? You cannot even run the solution (inc. changes) from it!

We're stuck on TFVC, is the planned solution to move everyone to Git and Pull Requests? The recent Visual Studio Live Share is really kick butt, but doesn't solve traditional "offline" code reviews.

Also we're using O365 Planner and Teams, but there's no integration into Team Services at all. Any chance we'll see Planner plan tasks as a work item in Visual Studio/Team Services?

[0] https://i.imgur.com/LNeTASv.png

Re: Google One is coming soon

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Post by delroth » Wed, May 16, 2018, 3:28 AM UTC

evrydayhustling wrote: post #42

geostyx wrote: post #33

To me this is the Amazon Prime for Google, with Drive storage + other perks.

The thing that really surprises me is "access to Google experts", which apparently means chat, email and phone [1]. Google has really avoided direct B2C interaction in the past; I wonder how they are developing this ability from scratch. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/14/say-hello-to-google-one/

Google has ~always had chat, email, and phone support for most of their paid-for B2C products. For products like Pixel it's even integrated in the settings UI for example. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/7109524?hl=en&r...

Re: Google One is coming soon

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Post by btilly » Wed, May 16, 2018, 3:29 AM UTC

LyalinDotCom wrote: post #41

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never thought another tech company could be more awkward than Microsoft at branding. I guess it’s just hard to name things.

Yes it is and hello from someone at Microsoft who has helped brand a few things. It’s really hard problem that is not easy to describe to others but branding in huge companies like these is hell. Though worth it when we get it right and make things clear. Trust me no one here branding wants it to suck.

Is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUXnJraKM3k still a good description of how things mess up?

Re: Google One is coming soon

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Post by jaxondu » Wed, May 16, 2018, 3:31 AM UTC

cwyers wrote: post #7

So, they've made Google One and Google Drive, in an effort to have Google OneDrive in series instead of in parallel.

They also have Android One. Guess soon they will release Android Drive.

Re: Google One is coming soon

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Post by tree_of_item » Wed, May 16, 2018, 3:33 AM UTC

joenathanone wrote: post #56

vowelless wrote: post #52

I am totally done with Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Apple and Amazon. I want my independence back. How can I set this up myself without relying on the above mentioned service providers ?

By not asking anyone else to answer the question for you and actually doing it yourself, be independent.

Think of it as "Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Apple and Amazon" vs. "the rest of us". There's no problem with asking other members of the community for help on self-hosting.

Re: Google One is coming soon

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Post by nstart » Wed, May 16, 2018, 3:33 AM UTC

turdnagel wrote: post #45

philliphaydon wrote: post #34

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Rather give send my birth certificate and passport to Microsoft and all other personal information than ever store stuff in Dropbox.

Why's that?

Might have something to do with the whole Condoleeza Rice kerfuffle that happened years ago. People swore against Dropbox ever since and for some reason feel the need to continue swearing against it today.

Re: Google One is coming soon

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Post by shermozle » Wed, May 16, 2018, 3:35 AM UTC

LyalinDotCom wrote: post #41

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never thought another tech company could be more awkward than Microsoft at branding. I guess it’s just hard to name things.

Yes it is and hello from someone at Microsoft who has helped brand a few things. It’s really hard problem that is not easy to describe to others but branding in huge companies like these is hell. Though worth it when we get it right and make things clear. Trust me no one here branding wants it to suck.

Skype is the one that blows my mind. You had another product that doesn't work with Skype, so you renamed it Skype. WAT?

Re: Google One is coming soon

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Post by rxhernandez » Wed, May 16, 2018, 3:39 AM UTC

joenathanone wrote: post #56

vowelless wrote: post #52

I am totally done with Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Apple and Amazon. I want my independence back. How can I set this up myself without relying on the above mentioned service providers ?

By not asking anyone else to answer the question for you and actually doing it yourself, be independent.

Hear ye, hear ye! Junior developers you should listen to joenathanone and never ask more senior people! You should make us watch over your back everyday because of your silly hubris and for our fear of you delaying our project! Asking questions is stupid and for the feeble minded! Google is your only friend!

Re: Google One is coming soon

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Post by timlyo » Wed, May 16, 2018, 7:18 AM UTC

dabernathy89 wrote: post #28

fermienrico wrote: post #23

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Dropbox is leagues ahead of any file sharing software out there. They’re on a bright future after the IPO. Dropbox Paper is absolutely amazing.

And yet I still can't easily get it to ignore `node_modules` folders.

Syncthing handles this pretty well. Only downside (upside in some cases) is that it's self hosted rather than a service.

https://syncthing.net/

Re: Google One is coming soon

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv » Wed, May 16, 2018, 7:32 AM UTC

mcny wrote: post #61

doomlaser wrote: post #27

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I'm a fan of Amazon Drive. The native clients are nice with a clear interface, and have the option to simply upload files or directories once, without having to synchronize them in local directories. It's not immediately clear how to do this in Google Drive, which seems confused especially since they've split it into two different products already. There's also been a persistent problem with the Google Drive native d…

I wish Google built is own first party cli tools for Google drive. Sort of like rsync but with a Google flavor. I'm sure people would love it.

I don't think Google cares whether people would love it or not, what counts is how much money they can get on it - in this case, zero.