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Re: Coinbase releases professional trading platform for institutional clients

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You think so? Due to inflation, I think the bar for "accredited investor" feels pretty low these days. HN must be full of middle class individuals with $1M+ USD networth.

>> HN must be full of middle class individuals with $1M+ USD networth. For the HN demographic that doesn't own a house and "only" pays rent, I'd agree with you. But another portion of the HN demographic that does own a flat or property may not qualify, as the definition of an accredited investor (at least in the US[1]) is $1M+ USD of investible assets excluding their primary residence. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wi…

Some of this demographic will meet the other (income) test:

a natural person with income exceeding $200,000 in each of the two most recent years or joint income with a spouse exceeding $300,000 for those years and a reasonable expectation of the same income level in the current year

Re: Coinbase releases professional trading platform for institutional clients

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They make it a federal crime to offer securities to non-wealthy people. Characterizing all such offers as scams is a prejudicial over-simplification, and the kind of sweeping and presumptive generalization that rationalizes repression.

No, they made it a federal crime to offer non-registered securities to non-wealthy people. Registered securities (stocks, bonds, mutual funds, etc.) are widely available to non-wealthy people and are probably a better investment for most of them, frankly, because of the concentration of risk inherent in a small dollar portfolio of non-registered securities and the idea that registered securities will have some standa…

Non-registered securities are those that are issued by any company not worth over something on the order of $100 million, since any company smaller than that cannot afford to get their securities registered.

Anyway, this distinction doesn't change my point: offers of such securities to unaccredited investors are not categorically "scams". This kind of critical reductionism is reckless to individual rights and liberty.

Re: Coinbase releases professional trading platform for institutional clients

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Bold claim, and funnily enough, you are the 3rd or 4th team I've run into this week that claim to be the fastest trading system on GDAX. The Consensus conference brings out these kind of conversations:) What are you basing your claim off of, I've seen some pretty impressive use of C++ and one team that is starting to burn simple strategies into FPGA's. What sort of time from network stack to network stack are you con…

You're probably thinking of my post from a few weeks ago in this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16922538 I'm tracking order positions with an in memory orderbook. When gdax accepts my order I know where I end up. I average spot 1.45 when the spread changes. It's hard to get closer to perfect 1.00 because of limit taker orders which, if placed right, always get 1.00 after the taker portion is calculated a…

> I'm tracking order positions with an in memory orderbook.

Yes, but you still didn't address the question of what are you basing your claim of being the fastest off of.

Re: Coinbase releases professional trading platform for institutional clients

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IMO, the SEC accredited investor rules are in place to make it a federal crime to scam non-accredited investors. Though I tend to be anti-regulation in general, I think these are good laws as I can only imagine how many investment scams would be running otherwise.

They make it a federal crime to offer securities to non-wealthy people. Characterizing all such offers as scams is a prejudicial over-simplification, and the kind of sweeping and presumptive generalization that rationalizes repression.

I think you are being uncharitable to the point they made. Since there are accredited investors, if a bad guy tries to talk an un-accredited investor into buying into a dressed up Ponzi scheme it is a federal crime and thus can be investigated and treated as such. The goal of this is to keep main street investors safe. Yes, it does put some limits on individual freedom but I think this is one area where the trade-offs has been chosen decently well.

Re: Coinbase releases professional trading platform for institutional clients

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Hyperbitcoinization incoming! In all seriousness, the attention from institutions, growing maturity of custodial solutions and good monetary policy are colliding. Nocoiners, watch out!

Can't wait for btc to be offered as collateral on debt. Will slaughter the retail investor like pets.com

You can't wait for retail investors to be slaughtered?

Re: Coinbase releases professional trading platform for institutional clients

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They're going to give new tools to institutional traders. Co-location, FIX market data, lending & margin financing products, professional crypto secure storage ('coinbase custody') etc. etc. They'll be faster than non-institutions and have trading options unavailable to the rest of us. Read this https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-institutional-deea317d23a... Right now, the institutions have to play on a level playing…

I've made almost $500k within a year. I don't run a bot and I don't have a financial background.

With manual trading? Or holding the right coins?

Do you trade full time?

Re: Coinbase releases professional trading platform for institutional clients

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post #77

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I've made almost $500k within a year. I don't run a bot and I don't have a financial background.

With manual trading? Or holding the right coins? Do you trade full time?

I don't day trade, but buy & sell from time to time. I always went all in, which is apparently a bad practice that I try to avoid now.

Re: Coinbase releases professional trading platform for institutional clients

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No, they made it a federal crime to offer non-registered securities to non-wealthy people. Registered securities (stocks, bonds, mutual funds, etc.) are widely available to non-wealthy people and are probably a better investment for most of them, frankly, because of the concentration of risk inherent in a small dollar portfolio of non-registered securities and the idea that registered securities will have some standa…

Non-registered securities are those that are issued by any company not worth over something on the order of $100 million, since any company smaller than that cannot afford to get their securities registered. Anyway, this distinction doesn't change my point: offers of such securities to unaccredited investors are not categorically "scams". This kind of critical reductionism is reckless to individual rights and liberty…

Companies can get registered fairly cheaply; a company with almost no assets or value could do it.

The expense comes from meeting the requirements to be registered on a large exchange like NYSE or NASDAQ (both of which are non-governmental entities). This is why small companies that have public stock are traded on "penny" exchanges.

Re: Coinbase releases professional trading platform for institutional clients

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They're going to give new tools to institutional traders. Co-location, FIX market data, lending & margin financing products, professional crypto secure storage ('coinbase custody') etc. etc. They'll be faster than non-institutions and have trading options unavailable to the rest of us. Read this https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-institutional-deea317d23a... Right now, the institutions have to play on a level playing…

Bold claim, and funnily enough, you are the 3rd or 4th team I've run into this week that claim to be the fastest trading system on GDAX. The Consensus conference brings out these kind of conversations:) What are you basing your claim off of, I've seen some pretty impressive use of C++ and one team that is starting to burn simple strategies into FPGA's. What sort of time from network stack to network stack are you con…

These posts kill me. Anyone who says they are burning strategies onto fpgas when they trade with GDAX has no idea what they or doing or talking about. The platforms are way too immature for this to matter. Source, was in real HFT for 10+ years.
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