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I Don’t Know How to Waste Time on the Internet Anymore

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Re: I Don’t Know How to Waste Time on the Internet Anymore

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>And then, one day, I think in 2013, Twitter and Facebook were not really very fun anymore.

For me, the internet stopped being fun after the Snowden revelations. Not only did it stop being fun, it became subconsciously repulsive I think. This was around that time.

Re: I Don’t Know How to Waste Time on the Internet Anymore

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post #27

I think the internet is less fun now -- I can't decide if its from maturation of technology or maturation of people though. (Has anyone else felt like things became less fun as they got older?) I felt a greater sense of community 10 years ago when I mostly used IRC and PHP BBs. The communities were smaller, and it was fun even if you disliked people. Flame wars and trolling were mostly for the audience's amusement, b…

I’ve actually been thinking about this recently, as I was also a heavy forum user back in the day. Why don’t we just start a forum for the HN crowd? Not a new interpretation of the forum model or anything like that, literally any instance of vbulletin or phpbb or something comparable and “traditional”. If people are genuinely interested in this, I would be up for spinning something up over the weekend.

I really wish we could get this set up, maybe even with some official ycombinator promotion. In my mind HN is the last really great group of strangers on the internet. I have learned so much from these comments sections and I've frequently read someone's post and connected with it to the point where I wish I could sit down for a cup of coffee or a beer.

Unfortunately, without community features it feels like slipping notes into a bottle and tossing them into the sea.

HN is the restaurant at the end of the internet.

Re: I Don’t Know How to Waste Time on the Internet Anymore

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In the recent 5 years, there has been a renaissance of "cyberspace" as in the early science fiction, the cyberpunk culture, and aesthetics and a nostalgia of 1980s in general, as shown in vaporwave [0] arts and independent/DIY music. In many works, the imagery of cyberspace was used heavily, and themes included Usenet the Eternal September, Sci-Fi themed hacking and cracking, early BBS and imageboard subculture, lots of memes, etc. And recently there is also an upsurge of cyberpunk-related fictions, games (e.g. VA-11 HALL-A [1]), TV series, etc.

The reason sure includes the economic recession and political failures of the present days, but the death of the early Internet culture and the promises of "cyberspace" being a cutting-edge, cool and fun place has failed in a future that never comes, is definitely an important cause.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporwave [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-11_HALL-A

Re: I Don’t Know How to Waste Time on the Internet Anymore

#264
I'm getting weary reading the constant lament of the "internet" as a massive entity. These articles take the same form:

- "ugh social media is terrible, remember forums"

- "aren't rss feeds great"

- "remember when sites were HTML based"

- "back in my day the internet was just me and a few cool people"

The internet is not a monolith. What people are complaining about is the corporate internet; the parts of the internet that are owned by billion dollar companies.

Here's the reality:

- there are more interesting independent blogs now than there were pre-Facebook/Twitter. Maybe less "per-capita" of total online usage, but there's still a higher volume

- every single person is capable of making an online community using cheap tech, and using corporate social media to promote it; way easier than it was in the past

- developers are still "allowed" to make sites in plain HTML/CSS that look great and load fast

Blockbuster movies are always bad, so people made indie films. Network TV sitcoms are bad, so people made online series. Pop music is bad, so people make great music and play in local bars and small venues. If you're tired of the "internet being bad", its time to put the work in to find (or make!) what you like, because it's all out there.

Re: I Don’t Know How to Waste Time on the Internet Anymore

#266

I think the internet is less fun now -- I can't decide if its from maturation of technology or maturation of people though. (Has anyone else felt like things became less fun as they got older?) I felt a greater sense of community 10 years ago when I mostly used IRC and PHP BBs. The communities were smaller, and it was fun even if you disliked people. Flame wars and trolling were mostly for the audience's amusement, b…

There was a joke being said frequently on online forums and messageboards about flame wars and trolls on the Internet, "the internet was serious business!", but now nobody even refers to the joke anymore, because it has actually been turned into one, or is not a fun place anymore.

Re: I Don’t Know How to Waste Time on the Internet Anymore

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use Discourse. It's not only the most advanced from a tech perspective, but it also aims to promote strong communities.

Am I the only one who is totally confused by discourse? Maybe it's because rhe demo instance was reset way to often or something but I've never really seen a really working discourse instance. (I think both Mozilla and Canonical (has?) run one but they weren't to active either IIRC. Anyone has examples of a working discourse community?

The subject matter may not appeal to some on HN, but here's an installation I set up at a previous employer over three years ago, that is thriving: https://discourse.biologos.org/

Re: I Don’t Know How to Waste Time on the Internet Anymore

#268
>What happened is that the internet stopped being something you went to in order to separate from the real world — from your job and your work and your obligations and responsibilities.

It seems we (or many of us) spend all our time on the internet, it no longer feels like a place to escape reality. Even when you are away from your desk, you are still connected to the internet through your phone. It doesn't have the same wonder it used to.

Re: I Don’t Know How to Waste Time on the Internet Anymore

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post #61

I think a lot of people here are missing the point. Yeah, there's a lot more content to consume now. However, it doesn't feel like a community... it feels more like watching reruns on TBS. I remember making actual friends on message boards. Friends I eventually met in the real world. I don't think relationships like that are really formed anymore. Most of social media now is a broadcast, not a conversation. People (m…

This is pretty much how I felt as a long-time TF2 player super excited for Overwatch to come out, and then very sad once I realized what kind of game it was. You grab your friends and play Overwatch, while you play TF2 and meet your friends. And also a parallel, TF2 obviously still exists, but all of the servers I used to play on are gone now. Haven’t found anything else quite yet. FFXIV actually was super enjoyable…

I never got into TF2 because I was all into TFC and found the lack of accompanying grenades in TF2 a kind of dumbing down of the game. Nades and concs were crucial to use along side your main weapon and it was no fun without them. Sadly there are only 2-3 active TFC servers left :'(
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