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I’ve actually been thinking about this recently, as I was also a heavy forum user back in the day. Why don’t we just start a forum for the HN crowd? Not a new interpretation of the forum model or anything like that, literally any instance of vbulletin or phpbb or something comparable and “traditional”. If people are genuinely interested in this, I would be up for spinning something up over the weekend.
Update: Spent the evening researching software options for the "old school" style forums, and it seems like Xenforo is a solid choice in terms of active development, lots of addons/themes, and not crazy expensive. So I think I'll snag a license and put it on a droplet later this week when my wife is out for the evening :) Also think I found a good domain for it that I'll snag tonight as well.
I Don’t Know How to Waste Time on the Internet Anymore
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#252I have been saying I've "reached the end of the internet" for awhile now. I am 44 and have been working on the web since mid 90s. I remember so much cool stuff from then. Trying to get a 56k modem to work, dealing with the fact that you couldn't always get online or if you did you could get kicked off at any time. I remember streaming the Tibetan Freedom Concert with realplayer back in '98. The first mp3 i got, napst…
I agree with you and am of a similar age and experience. But how much of the above is because "we were young"?
I seriously sit here some days and think, "does mark zuckerberg have no real self awareness?" I mean, this guy is the poster boy for everything that is wrong with the internet today. I guess when the inevitable shift from the open internet to the corporate internet happened, this is the result. Facebook is a multinational advertising platform, why can't they just admit that? What is wrong with this guy? But the real problem is that Facebook and Google make BILLIONS of dollars doing this.
I read an answer to a question on quora awhile back in which someone asked "what's it like to be a millionaire?". The best answer was something along the lines of many people ask this question but what they really want to know is "what is it like to spend a million dollars". I feel like this type of thinking is what is wrong with the internet today. No one wants to start a real business, they just want to start a business to get VC funding. No one wants to figure out how to really write, they want to figure out how to write a blog to make $10,000 a month from affiliate marketing bullshit. Every bit of "friendly" advice I see, I think, "ok, what's the catch here, what are they selling". And you know what? the people that just come out and say, "hey, this is me, this is what i'm selling" are the people that I will gladly give my money to.
Sorry for the rant, probably doesn't make a lot of sense but none of this does anymore.
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#254I have been saying I've "reached the end of the internet" for awhile now. I am 44 and have been working on the web since mid 90s. I remember so much cool stuff from then. Trying to get a 56k modem to work, dealing with the fact that you couldn't always get online or if you did you could get kicked off at any time. I remember streaming the Tibetan Freedom Concert with realplayer back in '98. The first mp3 i got, napst…
It sounds like you're content being offline more, which is great. If you miss it, though … per your comment that "nothing worked back then but that was part of the experience", you might enjoy seeing if there's a local Homebrew Website Club meeting near you ( https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club ). I've gone to a couple meetings of the SF one, and it's a nice, earnest, group of makers, looking to build cool stu…
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#255I have been saying I've "reached the end of the internet" for awhile now. I am 44 and have been working on the web since mid 90s. I remember so much cool stuff from then. Trying to get a 56k modem to work, dealing with the fact that you couldn't always get online or if you did you could get kicked off at any time. I remember streaming the Tibetan Freedom Concert with realplayer back in '98. The first mp3 i got, napst…
I have nothing interesting to add, except that I literally just stood up from reading House of Leaves in bed before sleep.
Btw, have you heard of the book Ship of Theseus? I bought it for my wife and we haven't jumped into it yet but seems similar in that it's a big puzzle: https://www.amazon.com/Ship-Theseus-J-Abrams/dp/0316201642 (and JJ Abrams if you're a fan)
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That's good and bad. Good: You can finally play the game as it was meant to be. You could not find a decent server in CS 1.6 where you could play 5v5. You need additional sites/communities/XYZ (e.g. ESL) to play it. Similar with TF2 in the early days. Also, bad admins can't kick you anymore because you use a weapon they don't like. I could forgive such behaviour, but as games introduced some leveling or other statist…
The leveling and statistical stuff is so lame anyway. I feel like CS and TF, the point was to dick around and shoot people. It was cool because you bought half-life and could play these two totally different games (we referred to them as “total conversions” at the time). The ranking stuff is all just trying to capitalize on esports, which is weird because the vast majority will never be that good anyway. It’s a big p…
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Go to Wikipedia and press X. Type it again. And again. And again... If you want obscure 80's music you can find archives of old 80's comp tapes from everything to folk to punk to experimental techno ( https://contortyourself-cy.bandcamp.com/album/80s-undergroun... ). I think the 90s+ has way more to offer in terms of just massive amounts of raw weird shit from bands most people never knew to begin with. You can stret…
What is this supposed to do? On OSX 'alt' is swallowed up as a character palette key, to it just types '˛'.
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Meatspace, the new spatially aware social networking site. No installation required. Make friends where your feet are!
I'd like to make a complaint that Meatspace is inaccessible for n00bs and amputee character classes. Also, higher level characters seem to be stopping new players from leveling up.
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#259I think a lot of people here are missing the point. Yeah, there's a lot more content to consume now. However, it doesn't feel like a community... it feels more like watching reruns on TBS. I remember making actual friends on message boards. Friends I eventually met in the real world. I don't think relationships like that are really formed anymore. Most of social media now is a broadcast, not a conversation. People (m…
This is pretty much how I felt as a long-time TF2 player super excited for Overwatch to come out, and then very sad once I realized what kind of game it was. You grab your friends and play Overwatch, while you play TF2 and meet your friends. And also a parallel, TF2 obviously still exists, but all of the servers I used to play on are gone now. Haven’t found anything else quite yet. FFXIV actually was super enjoyable…
I agree with the sentiment but the servers I played on are either gone, or drastically changed.
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#260In a PC, in the "olden internet days" that the article misses, you had to be in front of the PC. It was an activity on itself. But creating content was easier. You had a bigger screen, a slower connection, you saved funny memes in a folder in the Desktop. When bored, in was mentally and physically easier to alt-tab into amateurish internet than to get up to do something else. So lots of people ended up losing time interactively, in front of a hundred keys asking to be pressed.
Whereas today, most of the users interact through a mobile phone with one thumb, on 5 minute intervals, in a micropause throughout the day (and possibly even during a conversation). Small screen real estate, maxed out app, no hint to alt-tab, painful to create content (you have to tap in onscreen keyboard that eats up half of your screen, you have to add the second thumb and lean over the minuscule screen, you have to go to another app to navigate a folder to upload a meme, etc). Everything takes more effort, needs to be more conscious. And when the user mostly consumes, the whole UX evolves towards that, making it easier to consume and more difficult to create, in a viscious cicle.
(I'm typing this on my mobile and it is a pain. I only see about 20 typed words, even moving the cursor back to noher word is a minor pain, etc. I just want to get it done, and I have already thought a couple of times whether it makes more sense to kill the comment mid-redaction and keep on browsing HN)
Edit: and of course people keep using laptops an pcs, but the existence of mobile phone users change the dynamics of every content community a lot.