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Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by ljm »

gkoberger wrote: post #18

I have no clue why you'd build an app on Twitter's API anymore. I get it from their perspective (they want to control the ecosystem completely), however they've made it clear they don't care about anyone developing on them. Which is sad, since they only exist thanks to their early community of developers. I can't believe they killed off their MacOS Twitter app, told people to use third-party apps, and now are effecti…

There was a point in time, around 5 years ago more or less, when third party twitter clients were driving a fair amount of innovation in desktop UI, particularly on OSX. As a mentor I'd even ask if my mentee would want to learn to code by pulling some stuff out of Twitter and putting it in their own design on their own webpage. There was a lot of hope and promise back then, and Twitter was giving a voice to people in harsh regimes as their other modes of contact were being shut down (like with Arab Spring). They looked like they were on the up and up.

I don't think moves like this solve Twitter's existential abuse problem, which I believe has far more to do with their 140 characters and unsolicited heckling than it does anything else. It turns your whole reality into gossip and this gossip overpowers any semblance of rational or reasoned discourse. It's intensely toxic and shutting off an API and some client apps changes nothing about that.

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by egfx »

Bye Favstar. I followed you for years. They shut down my https://2fb.me app so many times, I no longer keep track of how bad they f'd it up. The latest blow was to my @shareU account. Yes, about 3 months ago I owned twitter.com/shareu and it was alive and sharing people's tweets to Facebook. Many people loved it, and it was a great promotional tool. All it's following was 100% organic, and it followed no other users. 17% of it's followers were from verified accounts, yet it was shut down for doing what it was set out to do, share tweets to Facebook.

but the original “like” on Twitter is back, http://2fb.me for the time being, let's see how it goes.

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by davepeck »

CrystalLangUser wrote: post #22

I just find it strange how developer-hostile twitter is, considering the community it once fostered. If you want to move with your feet, Mastodon [1] is rapidly growing in popularity, and it's completely open source [2]. Disclaimer: I used to run a mastodon instance, now I run a pleroma [3] instance to save on memory/cpu usage. Feel free to ask me any questions. [1]: https://joinmastodon.org/ [2]: https://github.com/…

I was curious about Mastodon's scale so I grabbed some basic stats last week: https://davepeck.org/2018/05/03/mastodon-stats/

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by vcpnt51 »

ymolodtsov wrote: post #3
QueensGambit wrote: post #2

More from Apps of a Feather: 1) Push notifications will no longer arrive 2) Timelines won’t refresh automatically If you use an app like Talon, Tweetbot, Tweetings, or Twitterrific, there is no way for its developer to fix these issues. http://apps-of-a-feather.com/

I mean, if they had a decent app I wouldn’t worry, but why they offer can’t be compared to Tweetbot and others.

What don't you like about the official apps? The iPhone one is good and performant.

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by dawnerd »

maxsilver wrote: post #31
gkoberger wrote: post #18

I have no clue why you'd build an app on Twitter's API anymore. I get it from their perspective (they want to control the ecosystem completely), however they've made it clear they don't care about anyone developing on them. Which is sad, since they only exist thanks to their early community of developers. I can't believe they killed off their MacOS Twitter app, told people to use third-party apps, and now are effecti…

They killed off the Windows Twitter app a few weeks ago too, replaced it with an iFrame to www.twitter.com I really don't understand why a social media site so large and influential is spending so little on their own product. Twitter won't let anyone develop any clients, but Twitter itself won't develop any clients either. Twitter acts like they wished no one would log in at all, they act like they're just waiting to…

If anything you'd think they would want native apps to make adblocking harder. If you use tweetbot you dont get ads at all. Kinda why facebook pushes you to their app when you go to the mobile site.

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by Jach »

gkoberger wrote: post #18

I have no clue why you'd build an app on Twitter's API anymore. I get it from their perspective (they want to control the ecosystem completely), however they've made it clear they don't care about anyone developing on them. Which is sad, since they only exist thanks to their early community of developers. I can't believe they killed off their MacOS Twitter app, told people to use third-party apps, and now are effecti…

Your comment makes me wonder, did I just enter a time warp back to 2012-2013? (https://readwrite.com/2012/08/16/developers-are-pissed-frust... , https://readwrite.com/2013/03/03/twitter-kills-off-tweetdeck...) I'm frankly surprised at anyone counting on Twitter sharecropping since then.

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by olliej »

gkoberger wrote: post #18

I have no clue why you'd build an app on Twitter's API anymore. I get it from their perspective (they want to control the ecosystem completely), however they've made it clear they don't care about anyone developing on them. Which is sad, since they only exist thanks to their early community of developers. I can't believe they killed off their MacOS Twitter app, told people to use third-party apps, and now are effecti…

A follow on from this question is why you’d ever build a company based entirely on analyzing data from another company. Best and worst case scenarios:

* you do something amazing, and start making money. So your source company turns off your access to the data and makes there own version * you never make enough money for them to care/notice you. They remove the source of data for non-competition related reasons/accidentally break the api and don’t care enough to fix it (if you’re not really making money presumably they’re not making money off you)

Shrug - maybe it’s simply a relatively easy way to get to the point where you can say enough buzzwords convincgly to get VC money?

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by oliyoung »

eigen-vector wrote: post #33
Pmop wrote: post #19

I started to use third-party twitter clients exclusively because of the annoying timeline manipulation. Now this. Is there any other way around other than quitting twitter ?

Tweetdeck.

Tweetdeck isn't third party

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Post by gmemstr »

oliyoung wrote: post #48
eigen-vector wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tweetdeck.

Tweetdeck isn't third party

It does however avoid screwing with the timeline order, and I find the column layout very convenient in most cases.

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by rhizome »

maxsilver wrote: post #31
gkoberger wrote: post #18

I have no clue why you'd build an app on Twitter's API anymore. I get it from their perspective (they want to control the ecosystem completely), however they've made it clear they don't care about anyone developing on them. Which is sad, since they only exist thanks to their early community of developers. I can't believe they killed off their MacOS Twitter app, told people to use third-party apps, and now are effecti…

They killed off the Windows Twitter app a few weeks ago too, replaced it with an iFrame to www.twitter.com I really don't understand why a social media site so large and influential is spending so little on their own product. Twitter won't let anyone develop any clients, but Twitter itself won't develop any clients either. Twitter acts like they wished no one would log in at all, they act like they're just waiting to…

I really don't understand why a social media site so large and influential is spending so little on their own product.

These companies hire the best of the best. QED.

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