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Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by maxsilver »

gkoberger wrote: post #18

I have no clue why you'd build an app on Twitter's API anymore. I get it from their perspective (they want to control the ecosystem completely), however they've made it clear they don't care about anyone developing on them. Which is sad, since they only exist thanks to their early community of developers. I can't believe they killed off their MacOS Twitter app, told people to use third-party apps, and now are effecti…

They killed off the Windows Twitter app a few weeks ago too, replaced it with an iFrame to www.twitter.com

I really don't understand why a social media site so large and influential is spending so little on their own product. Twitter won't let anyone develop any clients, but Twitter itself won't develop any clients either. Twitter acts like they wished no one would log in at all, they act like they're just waiting to be acquired and shut down.

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by gerdesj »

CrystalLangUser wrote: post #27
sondr3 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been meaning to start my own Pleroma instance due do the excessive hardware requirements of the Mastodon client. How would you compare the two projects since you’ve used both?

So currently, choosing Mastodon vs Pleroma boils down to what you care more about: performance/less complexity, or more features/maturity. Mastodon is really nice, but it's fairly intensive. Precompiling the rails/webpack assets in particular made my tiny VPS choke, even with 4GB of memory I believe. It also requires Sidekiq and other services [1]. Pleroma is newer and written in Elixir/Phoenix purely as an API. It o…

Some notes on Mastodon resource requirements:

https://github.com/tootsuite/documentation/blob/master/Runni...

Ta for bringing this to my attention. I'm ploughing through the docs ...

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by gerdesj »

s73v3r_ wrote: post #29
CrystalLangUser wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So currently, choosing Mastodon vs Pleroma boils down to what you care more about: performance/less complexity, or more features/maturity. Mastodon is really nice, but it's fairly intensive. Precompiling the rails/webpack assets in particular made my tiny VPS choke, even with 4GB of memory I believe. It also requires Sidekiq and other services [1]. Pleroma is newer and written in Elixir/Phoenix purely as an API. It o…

I've only heard of Mastodon. Is Pleroma a Mastodon server, or its own thing? (Searching for Pleroma does nothing but result in Greek Mythology hits).

Try searching for "pleroma mastodon" - I got a tonne of hits. For example: https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

s73v3r_ wrote: post #30
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I respectfully disagree. I could regurgitate the content on the website but that would hardly be any more substantive. Often these threads lead to curious people asking questions about Mastodon, and I'm happy to answer them and engage in more discussion.

Your entire comment was nothing but a link to Mastodon. Doing that, and not adding any other context or commentary, is spam.

Your entire comment was just repeating something someone else already said. So...

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by CrystalLangUser »

s73v3r_ wrote: post #29
CrystalLangUser wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So currently, choosing Mastodon vs Pleroma boils down to what you care more about: performance/less complexity, or more features/maturity. Mastodon is really nice, but it's fairly intensive. Precompiling the rails/webpack assets in particular made my tiny VPS choke, even with 4GB of memory I believe. It also requires Sidekiq and other services [1]. Pleroma is newer and written in Elixir/Phoenix purely as an API. It o…

I've only heard of Mastodon. Is Pleroma a Mastodon server, or its own thing? (Searching for Pleroma does nothing but result in Greek Mythology hits).

You can see it on their gitlab instance. [1]

Mastodon and Pleroma are both part of the Fediverse [2]. They work with any software that works with OStatus and the newer ActivityPub. This includes things like GNUSocial, etc.

Mastodon doesn't explain any of this well, or at all, to my dismay. (As far as I'm aware, on the joinmastodon page).

[1]: https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by hivacruz »

They should have waited a little more before shutting down on June 19th. Twitter announced they will postpone the death of real time streams after Tweetbot and some other apps complained about it weeks ago. It was told on the Twitter API account.

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by menacingly »

wmeredith wrote: post #26
joelrunyon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So tweetbot is dead then? Why can't twitter make a decent app on it's own? This shouldn't be complicated...

*its They don't want to make a decent app. They've bought great apps and shuttered them. They want you to use the web client.

It's become slightly boorish to correct grammar and spelling. It signals pedantry, and sets a tedious tone for the rest of your comment.

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by jwilliams »

wmeredith wrote: post #26
joelrunyon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So tweetbot is dead then? Why can't twitter make a decent app on it's own? This shouldn't be complicated...

*its They don't want to make a decent app. They've bought great apps and shuttered them. They want you to use the web client.

> They want you to use the web client.

I use the web app version exclusively -- based on that I don't agree.

Both the Twitter and Facebook Android/iOS web applications constantly push you to download the native client. They even get demanding sometimes. They want to be able to send you push notifications.

Re: Favstar will shut down as a result of Twitter’s API changes for data streams

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Post by flurdy »

maxsilver wrote: post #31
gkoberger wrote: post #18

I have no clue why you'd build an app on Twitter's API anymore. I get it from their perspective (they want to control the ecosystem completely), however they've made it clear they don't care about anyone developing on them. Which is sad, since they only exist thanks to their early community of developers. I can't believe they killed off their MacOS Twitter app, told people to use third-party apps, and now are effecti…

They killed off the Windows Twitter app a few weeks ago too, replaced it with an iFrame to www.twitter.com I really don't understand why a social media site so large and influential is spending so little on their own product. Twitter won't let anyone develop any clients, but Twitter itself won't develop any clients either. Twitter acts like they wished no one would log in at all, they act like they're just waiting to…

Tweetdeck is still offered as a desktop client. Though these days its is ony available as a webapp via https://tweetdeck.twitter.com or as a Chrome app.
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