I would absolutely love to see a thoughtful 'what engineers want from technical recruiters' post.
1. Actually read my resume before sending me an email.
2. Don't offer me a pay cut to work at your silly startup.
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I would absolutely love to see a thoughtful 'what engineers want from technical recruiters' post.
1. Actually read my resume before sending me an email.
2. Don't offer me a pay cut to work at your silly startup.
I think recruiters should actually start giving a shit about the lives of engineers before making demands. - Actually try to get to know and understand a person - Dont use fill-in templates - Have some actual knowledge of tech (java != .net) - Dont make offerings for positions I worked on 10 years ago during college. - Dont be greedy. To just name a few...
In the last year though, I've met a wide variety of people with a wide variety of responsibilities, approaches, and backgrounds, yet they all share the same job title. There are certainly awful recruiters out there, but there are also some really fantastic ones! (Just like how there are both awful and fantastic devs out there.)
I've gotten to see both sides of job searching/hiring and it has been eye opening. Both sides have similar complaints of the other, which is why the process looks so darn similar to dating.
My guess is that founders, CTOs, and recruiters would all probably make a list similar to yours:
- Actually try to get to know and understand our company
- Don't use fill-in templates
- Have some actual knowledge of our industry/product
- Don't focus on positions you worked on 10 years ago during college
- Don't be greedy
"Think of your resume like a poem." Roses are red, Violets are blue, I need a job, You're hiring, right?
I'm surprised none of them mentioned the abominable "culture match". I've heard repeated complaints that it's much more important to be a brogrammer who likes craft beers, than it is to be any good at the actual programming.
On one of the first calls I had, the recruiter heavily implied that I was “not a culture fit” after I explained that I’m only interested in a job if it pays more than I currently make consulting (this particular job paid about half that). I’m not socially inept, I know how to speak politely and it was definitely polite. I mentioned it on the first call because I didn’t want to waste anyone’s time (mine included) interviewing for a job that I wouldn’t take.
The HR lady seemed completely taken aback and offended... says “we’re looking for people passionate about the problems we’re solving, even if it means taking a pay cut.”
Get the f- out of here with that BS. That really grinds my gears. The company is allowed to be profit seeking but the employees are not? No thanks.
I’ll stick with consulting... I like having multiple clients over one employer. I like that there are no “interviews,” just my own confidence and sales skills to pitch proposals to clients. I like the respect that clients show me that no employer ever has. I like the autonomy, the lifestyle. And yes I like getting paid more than I would at a local job. There’s nothing wrong with that.
I think recruiters should actually start giving a shit about the lives of engineers before making demands. - Actually try to get to know and understand a person - Dont use fill-in templates - Have some actual knowledge of tech (java != .net) - Dont make offerings for positions I worked on 10 years ago during college. - Dont be greedy. To just name a few...
No technical interview question I've ever been asked has anything to do with "self awareness" as Tammy pointed out. In fact self-awareness for the hyper-productive is a negative for the organization, as that individual eventually realizes they deserve a significant share of what they create and aren't getting it.
I think recruiters should actually start giving a shit about the lives of engineers before making demands. - Actually try to get to know and understand a person - Dont use fill-in templates - Have some actual knowledge of tech (java != .net) - Dont make offerings for positions I worked on 10 years ago during college. - Dont be greedy. To just name a few...
I think recruiters should actually start giving a shit about the lives of engineers before making demands. - Actually try to get to know and understand a person - Dont use fill-in templates - Have some actual knowledge of tech (java != .net) - Dont make offerings for positions I worked on 10 years ago during college. - Dont be greedy. To just name a few...
"Hi we're looking for a python/clojure/go/dart/react senior developer. We need 5 years of experience and a college degree in CS"
"I have none of those but forward my resume if you think I'd be a good fit"
"Alright, I'll get your resume over to them ASAP!"
Several days later
"Sorry, they said you wouldn't be a good fit"
No fucking shit, I am shocked
I think recruiters should actually start giving a shit about the lives of engineers before making demands. - Actually try to get to know and understand a person - Dont use fill-in templates - Have some actual knowledge of tech (java != .net) - Dont make offerings for positions I worked on 10 years ago during college. - Dont be greedy. To just name a few...
I would add to that: - Don't try to recruit me for the company I work for - Don't constantly ask me for referrals for a $500 bonus from your $20k fee
I would absolutely love to see a thoughtful 'what engineers want from technical recruiters' post.