Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones
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Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones
#2Is it not assumed/expected that if you're using android then google has access to all your phone's data/sensors?
Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones
#3So, my read on it is basically that the claim is that Google's data collection on Android costs users a lot of money in data charges. It's probably a fairly reasonable point to bring up since almost everything could be done on-device if Google didn't have specific interest in people's user data, but it's also very hard to argue that Google doesn't have user permission to do it, assuming EULAs nobody reads or can understand are legal in the given jurisdiction.
And of course, this appears to be another front in which Oracle is helping point out the many ways Android is screwing everyone else over, mostly because they're upset about Android screwing them over.
Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones
#4So, my read on it is basically that the claim is that Google's data collection on Android costs users a lot of money in data charges. It's probably a fairly reasonable point to bring up since almost everything could be done on-device if Google didn't have specific interest in people's user data, but it's also very hard to argue that Google doesn't have user permission to do it, assuming EULAs nobody reads or can unde…
This might be another situation where GDPR saves the day; Google will need to push updates out to limit their data collection, as well as reveal the full scope of their data collection activities with Android.
Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones
#5Bbbut Open Source...
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#6Shouldn't all this data just be uploaded over wifi?
Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones
#7Is it not assumed/expected that if you're using android then google has access to all your phone's data/sensors?
One would think so. It is, after all, an operating system created by the largest advertising company that has ever existed, and they are not giving it away for altruistic reasons.
Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones
#8So, my read on it is basically that the claim is that Google's data collection on Android costs users a lot of money in data charges. It's probably a fairly reasonable point to bring up since almost everything could be done on-device if Google didn't have specific interest in people's user data, but it's also very hard to argue that Google doesn't have user permission to do it, assuming EULAs nobody reads or can unde…
This might be another situation where GDPR saves the day; Google will need to push updates out to limit their data collection, as well as reveal the full scope of their data collection activities with Android.
(In the EU)
This particular story/investigation appears to be in Australia. Google's only required to limit their tendency to stalk your every waking moment in the EU. While some of the improvements made will probably end up being available globally just because, for instance, improvements to Google Takeout-like work, I doubt Google's going to stop tracking you where it's still legally permissible.
Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones
#9Is it not assumed/expected that if you're using android then google has access to all your phone's data/sensors?
*if you're using android with Google Services
Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones
#10Android is the biggest example of how companies practice bait and switch under the banner of "open source". I's rather have fully proprietary software that respects my privacy than open source software that opens up my private data.