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Don't let Google take over Berlin

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Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin

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Post by mseebach »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #8
tzakrajs wrote: post #3

> Instead of a nice friendly “campus” we see a Google farm for harvesting Kreuzberg’s brains and talents, or a Google mine in which ideas and data will be extracted out of Berlin It's simply not a zero sum game. Google will bring culture and resources with it that could enhance Berlin.

That’s up to the people of Berlin to decide, not a faceless American tech company.

After all, democracy is the idea that the people know what is best for them, and deserve to get it good and hard. I prefer Munich anyway.

Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin

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Post by EdwardDiego »

tzakrajs wrote: post #3

> Instead of a nice friendly “campus” we see a Google farm for harvesting Kreuzberg’s brains and talents, or a Google mine in which ideas and data will be extracted out of Berlin It's simply not a zero sum game. Google will bring culture and resources with it that could enhance Berlin.

> Google will bring culture and resources with it that could enhance Berlin.

Like what? Berlin has a vibrant and energetic tech scene, what is Google going to bring that Kreuzberg is lacking?

Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin

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Post by knuththetruth »

m90 wrote: post #27

Just like people repeatedly breaking the windows of a coffee shop nearby because the owners are "bankers from London" (this was stated as the #1 selling point for boycot in a flyer) this entire movement exposes the worst Kreuzberg has to offer: an incredibly self-righteous xenophobia. People think they are so incredibly open minded when they are pro refugees, but as soon as it's the "wrong kind of Ausländer" (the one…

Ah, the old “hating rich people is the same as racism” defense.

Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin

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Post by pdimitar »

jimmaswell wrote: post #25

If you kicked out every company that's done anything unethical or amoral, you'd have no companies left. If Berliners really want to shoot themselves in the foot like this then Google can take its operations elsewhere at no loss while the locals are out better paying tech jobs and a market signal that would invite more tech companies and startups to the area. I'm glad I don't live in Berlin right now.

I think you are overestimating the IT market's talent abundance right now.

There are many people trying to get good programming wages and that doesn't make them good programmers.

IMO Google -- and any other corp -- has a lot to lose if they close an office. Real talent doesn't just exist everywhere you go.

I am not supporting or attacking the website, just clarifying the above point.

Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin

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Post by aw3c2 »

tzakrajs wrote: post #20
have_faith wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What culture could Google bring to Berlin?

There are tons of books written about Google's culture, but my favorite is ”How Google Works” by Eric Schmidt and Jonathan Rosenberg.

> Jonathan Rosenberg is the former Senior Vice President of Products at Google and current advisor to Alphabet Inc. CEO Larry Page.

> Eric Emerson Schmidt is an American businessman and software engineer. He is known for being the Executive Chairman of Google from 2001 to 2017 and Alphabet Inc. from 2015 to 2017.

That book surely will paint a fair and objective view.

Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin

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Post by moogly »

have_faith wrote: post #9
tzakrajs wrote: post #3

> Instead of a nice friendly “campus” we see a Google farm for harvesting Kreuzberg’s brains and talents, or a Google mine in which ideas and data will be extracted out of Berlin It's simply not a zero sum game. Google will bring culture and resources with it that could enhance Berlin.

What culture could Google bring to Berlin?

Frogurt

Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin

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Post by lazyjones »

Typical leftist/anarchist nonsense, although Google should probably choose a better location anyway. In these areas of Berlin, their engineers will more likely be mugged, their cars burned, their offices vandalized. Munich would be a more sensible choice, or even Vienna.

Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin

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Post by mseebach »

have_faith wrote: post #9
tzakrajs wrote: post #3

> Instead of a nice friendly “campus” we see a Google farm for harvesting Kreuzberg’s brains and talents, or a Google mine in which ideas and data will be extracted out of Berlin It's simply not a zero sum game. Google will bring culture and resources with it that could enhance Berlin.

What culture could Google bring to Berlin?

The kind of culture that comes with being a place where young, highly educated, liberal, high earning people come to work and live. It seems like that final bit is the problem for these campaigners, they seem pretty enamoured with the idea of their city staying poor (but sexy).
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