Def time for Google/Amazon/Facebook to have some real competition in Europe.
Can’t let the Chinese do all the work.
Don't let Google take over Berlin
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Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin
#22> Instead of a nice friendly “campus” we see a Google farm for harvesting Kreuzberg’s brains and talents, or a Google mine in which ideas and data will be extracted out of Berlin It's simply not a zero sum game. Google will bring culture and resources with it that could enhance Berlin.
What "culture and resources" will Google bring that will benefit anyone except Googlers?
There are tons of books written about Google's culture, but my favorite is ”How Google Works” by Eric Schmidt and Jonathan Rosenberg.
With regard to resources, Google has by far has the most sophisticated access to future tech (quantum, ML for example), the most infrastructure (GGC, oceanic fiber, DC/pops), and their incredible scale comes with great advantages.
Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
What "culture and resources" will Google bring that will benefit anyone except Googlers?
There are tons of books written about Google's culture, but my favorite is ”How Google Works” by Eric Schmidt and Jonathan Rosenberg. With regard to resources, Google has by far has the most sophisticated access to future tech (quantum, ML for example), the most infrastructure (GGC, oceanic fiber, DC/pops), and their incredible scale comes with great advantages.
Well, that's an appropriately non-responsive answer. Thanks!
Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin
#24> Instead of a nice friendly “campus” we see a Google farm for harvesting Kreuzberg’s brains and talents, or a Google mine in which ideas and data will be extracted out of Berlin It's simply not a zero sum game. Google will bring culture and resources with it that could enhance Berlin.
That’s up to the people of Berlin to decide, not a faceless American tech company.
..yes indeed the German people can decide not to go work at the campus..
Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin
#25If you kicked out every company that's done anything unethical or amoral, you'd have no companies left. If Berliners really want to shoot themselves in the foot like this then Google can take its operations elsewhere at no loss while the locals are out better paying tech jobs and a market signal that would invite more tech companies and startups to the area. I'm glad I don't live in Berlin right now.
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#26The rents in Kreuzberg already increased a lot this past decade: https://guthmann-estate.com/marketreport/micro-market-report... Gentrification is a problem, but long time renters in Germany are really having it good. An example of how does the system works here: I pay twice as much as some German friends living in my district because my parents didn't sign me up in a union 20 years ago. I'm OK with that, it's the ga…
I don't understand this new mentality that "Gentrification is a problem," companies and wealthier people moving in makes everyone in the area more wealthy. The problem of affordable housing has less to do with those companies moving in and more to do with local real estate monopolies that lobby against rezoning for residential and expanding building permits. That's basically the bay area in a nutshell. People complai…
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#27Just like people repeatedly breaking the windows of a coffee shop nearby because the owners are "bankers from London" (this was stated as the #1 selling point for boycot in a flyer) this entire movement exposes the worst Kreuzberg has to offer: an incredibly self-righteous xenophobia.
People think they are so incredibly open minded when they are pro refugees, but as soon as it's the "wrong kind of Ausländer" (the one where it's not possible to impose moral standards as easily as it's not possible to exploit their need for protection anymore) it's all evil all of a sudden.
People will need to realize that they will need to be welcoming to either everyone or noone, everything else is just bigotry. Let's be welcoming to everyone I would propose.
Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin
#28> Instead of a nice friendly “campus” we see a Google farm for harvesting Kreuzberg’s brains and talents, or a Google mine in which ideas and data will be extracted out of Berlin It's simply not a zero sum game. Google will bring culture and resources with it that could enhance Berlin.
What culture could Google bring to Berlin?
As a person from post-Communist country where this argument ("offices of big corporations in your area will bring culture, resources, and set you free") is used all the time by everyone from media, politicians, to employees, I find this hilarious. Obey.
Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are tons of books written about Google's culture, but my favorite is ”How Google Works” by Eric Schmidt and Jonathan Rosenberg. With regard to resources, Google has by far has the most sophisticated access to future tech (quantum, ML for example), the most infrastructure (GGC, oceanic fiber, DC/pops), and their incredible scale comes with great advantages.
Well, that's an appropriately non-responsive answer. Thanks!
I edited my answer. Sorry for the lag time.
Re: Don't let Google take over Berlin
#30> Instead of a nice friendly “campus” we see a Google farm for harvesting Kreuzberg’s brains and talents, or a Google mine in which ideas and data will be extracted out of Berlin It's simply not a zero sum game. Google will bring culture and resources with it that could enhance Berlin.
"harvesting brains?"
What is this zombie apocalypse?