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Re: Ask HN: What's it like to live in San Francisco?

#91
post #79

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That's right. - Right: San Francisco, SF or "The City". - Wrong: "Frisco", "San Fran", "415". If you want to act "friscan" people get pretty upset very fast.

I seem to remember "Frisco" being used in Western novels I read as a kid, though.

Probably can find a copy of https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Call-Frisco-Herb-Caen/dp/B002IAO... at your local library, worth a read?

Re: Ask HN: What's it like to live in San Francisco?

#92

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What year(s) did you live in SF or spend significant time there?

I'm curious if you want to make a substantive point, please go ahead and do so without waiting for my complete biographical details.

The timeline you've laid out:

Pre 2005 - "general impression it was very Bohemian with a strong underground scene" 2005-2010 - "the city had a very positive vibe" Post 2010 - "overcrowded, overvalued and overcapitalized" "a capitalist parody of this former self"

My guess is that you likely moved to SF around 2005 and the city fortunately managed to maintain its "very positive vibe." Yet someone who moved there in the mid 80s would likely have a very different opinion of the same era. Similarly some tech bro who moved there in 2010 would likely have a more rose-colored take on the 2010-2018 era.

I guess my substantive point is that people like to think they were there when it was good no matter when they were there.

Re: Ask HN: What's it like to live in San Francisco?

#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious if you want to make a substantive point, please go ahead and do so without waiting for my complete biographical details.

The timeline you've laid out: Pre 2005 - "general impression it was very Bohemian with a strong underground scene" 2005-2010 - "the city had a very positive vibe" Post 2010 - "overcrowded, overvalued and overcapitalized" "a capitalist parody of this former self" My guess is that you likely moved to SF around 2005 and the city fortunately managed to maintain its "very positive vibe." Yet someone who moved there in the…

I got that from your previous comment. I don't think it means the city is the same in 2018 as it was in 2005 or 1985. I'm talking about specific structural differences that don't have anything to do with when I got here (e.g rent).

Re: Ask HN: What's it like to live in San Francisco?

#94
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I seem to remember "Frisco" being used in Western novels I read as a kid, though.

Probably can find a copy of https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Call-Frisco-Herb-Caen/dp/B002IAO... at your local library, worth a read?

Thanks, will check it out.

Re: Ask HN: What's it like to live in San Francisco?

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The timeline you've laid out: Pre 2005 - "general impression it was very Bohemian with a strong underground scene" 2005-2010 - "the city had a very positive vibe" Post 2010 - "overcrowded, overvalued and overcapitalized" "a capitalist parody of this former self" My guess is that you likely moved to SF around 2005 and the city fortunately managed to maintain its "very positive vibe." Yet someone who moved there in the…

I got that from your previous comment. I don't think it means the city is the same in 2018 as it was in 2005 or 1985. I'm talking about specific structural differences that don't have anything to do with when I got here (e.g rent).

No but it calls into question your assessment of the city.

Re: Ask HN: What's it like to live in San Francisco?

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got that from your previous comment. I don't think it means the city is the same in 2018 as it was in 2005 or 1985. I'm talking about specific structural differences that don't have anything to do with when I got here (e.g rent).

No but it calls into question your assessment of the city.

I'm well aware of potential cognitive biases based on the arc of personal experience and I think I've accounted for that above. Meanwhile you've addressed zero of my objective points. You're a troll.

Re: Ask HN: What's it like to live in San Francisco?

#97
post #41

Coming from Northern Europe, I still find SF a place it would be hard to leave. If you're in tech, there is no better place to be, in terms of learning, career progression and the overall interest. Think about any technology you're interest in, and you're probably a coffee shop away to talk people who work on it or lead the work. In Europe, I'd often feel how lacking and not interesting the environment is in many way…

As Northern European with ambitions to move to a US tech hub one day, I am interested in knowing a bit of your background. Did you go to school in the US? How did you acquire your visa? Were you sponsored by an employer or did you go through the lottery? etc.

Our company got accepted YC which made us to move here during YC and then just stayed. I had visited the Bay Area few times in previous here.

The YC didn't really help or matter much for the visas, it just meant that we had a reason to be here, and our company in US that could sponsor us our visas. As a company owner, you cannot really do H1B easily, so we (2 Finnish founders) applied for O1 visa. We both had some previous projects and background, including the startup, that we could use to make our case for the O1. For O1 you need public evidence: press articles, conference talks, mentoring, lectures etc to prove that you have specific expertise in some category. I actually didn't even graduate, it didn't matter. A year ago, I upgraded my status to green card.

I would recommend signing up for the green card lottery each year, since its pretty easy and good probability to get one in the Nordics. Secondly, I would just visit here couple times, try to get know people and how things work. Then you can start building your "resume". Resume here often means actual visible projects you built, interests etc. European schools or companies doesn't matter much in interviewing for jobs. What matters is your skills, how you can show them and how well you can sell them.

One route is also taking a job in a company that has office in Europe, and then after a year, try to ask for a transfer to US HQ.

Re: Ask HN: What's it like to live in San Francisco?

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No but it calls into question your assessment of the city.

I'm well aware of potential cognitive biases based on the arc of personal experience and I think I've accounted for that above. Meanwhile you've addressed zero of my objective points. You're a troll.

I have no idea what your objective points are. All you’ve said is, “the city used to be good now it isn’t.”

Re: Ask HN: What's it like to live in San Francisco?

#99
post #73

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When Americans say the singular "America" they mean USA.

That's probably true for Americans from the USA, not so sure about Americans from other American countries.

Context matters. You're essentially reading "my favorite football team is the Eagles" and responding "well Eagles are actually a type of bird".

Re: Ask HN: What's it like to live in San Francisco?

#100
post #4

The current attitude is tech and homelessness and everything in between. All the artist and musicians have moved to Oakland instead of living in the mission. Its a sunny 70 degrees year round, except for in the summer its foggy by the ocean everyday. Unemployment rate is extremely low (2.2%), but the rent is extremely high. If you thinking of moving here, just do it. Everyone here is from somewhere else and came to c…

You mean 55-60 and sunny.
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