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Re: Show HN: Strimpack – roll your own livestreaming portal, chat, subs, and forum

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Huge price difference fixed bandwidth cost vs. CDN.

Nah. $.04/GB is practical. https://www.keycdn.com/pricing

Vs. something like 0.005/GB for Digital Ocean $5 tier. Practical is very situational, but 10x cheaper is 10x cheaper.

Re: Show HN: Strimpack – roll your own livestreaming portal, chat, subs, and forum

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Ohh haha. I thought this was a replacement for twitch or similar, but it's just the chat/subs/forum, the most important part, the live streaming, is not part of this project.

https://antmedia.io/ and https://www.red5pro.com/ have open source RMTP + WebRTC servers, as well as hosted solutions. Both are compatible with (versions of) https://obsproject.com/ for live desktop capture, so would be a solid basis for building a Twitch competitor.

That is really interesting. I searched for something like this a couple of weeks ago, but wasn't successful.

Re: Show HN: Strimpack – roll your own livestreaming portal, chat, subs, and forum

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Huge price difference fixed bandwidth cost vs. CDN.

Nah. $.04/GB is practical. https://www.keycdn.com/pricing

That's still pretty high if we're just considering raw transit costs. The highest rate I would be comfortable paying for a CDN would be $0.015/GB ($0.03/GB in Asia), that's still way above market rates for most IP transit right now.

Much better deal (and probably way better CDN) than AWS provides, but AWS egress rates are suicidally bad, especially for high bandwidth stuff like video. If you're doing any serious streaming, avoid AWS like the plague unless you like livestreaming yourself filing for bankruptcy.

Re: Show HN: Strimpack – roll your own livestreaming portal, chat, subs, and forum

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> And because the livestreaming platforms [obviously referring to Twitch] take an egregious chunk of the money people tip streamers, even after they've ground their way to "partnered" status. > The application has lots of external dependencies. In particular, you need: > Twitch - a Twitch account with an application registered on their developer console. I'd be really interested to see what happened if a popular stre…

Back when Twitch was Justin.tv, we put in a lot of effort to make sure we only sent video to a copy of our player that was successfully showing our ad placements. I imagine that similar protections are still in place, but it's been almost a decade since I worked there.

I use adblockers and I've never seen ads on Twitch

Re: Show HN: Strimpack – roll your own livestreaming portal, chat, subs, and forum

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I would say if you really wanted to make this easier for streamers to use you could use helm to package up a kubernetes configuration (a bit of work) and then put it into something like google cloud launcher so you could just point and click to set this up.

Not quite point-and-click, but at my church, we just type "terraform apply" every week to set up a live streaming system using: https://github.com/awakening-church/live-infrastructure Might be useful for others!

Great to get such a useful tool shared here Bro! I'll shoot you an email for further chat... Stay blessed!!!

Re: Show HN: Strimpack – roll your own livestreaming portal, chat, subs, and forum

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> And because the livestreaming platforms [obviously referring to Twitch] take an egregious chunk of the money people tip streamers, even after they've ground their way to "partnered" status. > The application has lots of external dependencies. In particular, you need: > Twitch - a Twitch account with an application registered on their developer console. I'd be really interested to see what happened if a popular stre…

I don't understand though, most streamers get their donations via third-party platforms already (streamlabs etc). Are they bypassing as well? As a matter of fact, Twitch just recently added a native ways to accept donations (bits).

Re: Show HN: Strimpack – roll your own livestreaming portal, chat, subs, and forum

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Setting up a live streaming site is easy, we did whitelabel sites for Camarades.com a long time ago. The hard part is - just like with chatroulette clones - to keep it clean (if that's your objective). If you don't keep a very good eye out you'll be running a fetish porn site in an eyeblink, and possibly an illegal one at that.

Re: Show HN: Strimpack – roll your own livestreaming portal, chat, subs, and forum

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> And because the livestreaming platforms [obviously referring to Twitch] take an egregious chunk of the money people tip streamers, even after they've ground their way to "partnered" status. > The application has lots of external dependencies. In particular, you need: > Twitch - a Twitch account with an application registered on their developer console. I'd be really interested to see what happened if a popular stre…

Back when Twitch was Justin.tv, we put in a lot of effort to make sure we only sent video to a copy of our player that was successfully showing our ad placements. I imagine that similar protections are still in place, but it's been almost a decade since I worked there.

Not so much work anymore. It seemed there was a decent push when the html5 client was released, but nowadays you can just use streamlink or many other programs that are similar. I just sub to streamers that I want to support.

Re: Show HN: Strimpack – roll your own livestreaming portal, chat, subs, and forum

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Setting up a live streaming site is easy, we did whitelabel sites for Camarades.com a long time ago. The hard part is - just like with chatroulette clones - to keep it clean (if that's your objective). If you don't keep a very good eye out you'll be running a fetish porn site in an eyeblink, and possibly an illegal one at that.

I understood the objective to be for each streamer to run their own site where only one person or group does the streaming and people just watch and interact. I think keeping the text chat clean is pretty much the same as keeping a forum (like based on discourse) clean. Thoughtful defaults and good tools for moderators should be enough for many cases.

From what I've heard it is bandwidth that costs the most? Like $20 a month gets me a droplet on digital ocean with 4TB transfer, 4GB memory, and 80GB of storage. If you have 25 concurrent viewers each watching 100 hours of Livestream every month and each hour of 1080p60 is 1GB, how much ___ will you need?

25 * 100 * 1GB = about 2.5TB? Does that sound about right?

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