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Emails Show FDA Chemists Have Been Finding Glyphosate in Food
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#182It seems to me that any sufficiently equipped lab can run these tests. How about Consumer Reports? Well Consumer Reports sucks these days so maybe somebody else...
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The argument here being that there is a reserve supply of latent bees not used for commercial pollination, backfilling the commercial supply? I think robot bees are a more plausible explanation.
According to the article you yourself linked to support the claim that there's no problem, that's exactly what they do -- purchase extra bees. That and split colonies (which creates weaker colonies which are more susceptible to death). And this same article admits a substantial price increase in products requiring bees for production.
How would you reconcile "substantial price increase due to bee requirements" to "sub-inflationary increases in pollination prices"? Again, you don't have to guess about this: pollination prices are tracked and published. We don't need the axiomatic method to figure this out; Google does just fine.
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Rotenone is no longer an organic pesticide. [Even in America. It can only be used as a "fishkill"] source: http://npic.orst.edu/NPRO/#
What does "organic" mean if a specific substance can become "not organic" without changing?
You have a point. I think "not organic" in this context is shorthand for "not allowed in organic agriculture." Scanning the reg, the USDA's list is titled "Prohibited Natural Substances."
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#185It seems to me that any sufficiently equipped lab can run these tests. How about Consumer Reports? Well Consumer Reports sucks these days so maybe somebody else...
That's a really good point. Are there independent tests corroborating this? If so, why hasn't the alarm been sounded before now? Or was it and nobody paid attention after the next news cycle?
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#186I've noticed that Monsanto appears to be on an astroturfing campaign. Half of the ads appearing in my Reddit front page are promoted posts that are pro-glyphosate. They point to legitimate news articles, for example, that report on a study finding that glyphosate is not a carginogen. Of course, these studies contradict other studies that glyphosate is a carcinogen or otherwise a concern. In truth, I was ready to beli…
Reddit is a fantastic place for astroturf to sprout. It's almost designed explicitly for it. I don't know why people trust that place or mimic their awful system (such as this forum for instance)
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't really even understand what this comment is trying to say. Vaccines aren't harmful. But doctors don't make vaccines, pharma companies do. And pharma companies would gladly hurt you. Conclusion: ???.
I think what is meant (from the post in question, not necessarily your summary): cui bono arguments are particularly ineffective for those claiming vaccines are harmful, because doctors, who generally consider vaccines to be very effective and mostly harmless, are not particularly financially vested in the continued use of vaccines (unlike the manufacturers, presumably.) If the use of vaccines was curtailed, doctors…
Lets not put all vaccines into a sigle category. There are many different types of vaccines, from how they work to how they are actually manufactured, and they all carry different levels of risks. Blanket statements are not helpful.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
In college, I did a deep dive into GMO safety research for journal club back when the Seralini "GMOs cause cancer in mice" paper hit (2010 or thereabouts) and found quite a counterexample to your rule: bogus (obviously p-hacked) science from Seralini and an aggressive misinformation campaign from Greenpeace to convince people that Monsanto was using terminator genes (bio-DRM) against poor farmers when the truth had b…
>> Blind opposition to industrial progress -- which is what you are suggesting -- carried by the rising tide of public opinion will cause a ton of damage in the century to come, and the damage will never be repaid. What damage will be caused by people using their phones less for fear of getting cancer? What about GMOs? What is the harm in not using them? The EU has mostly banned them and it doesn't look to be sufferi…
>What about GMOs? What is the harm in not using them?
lower crop yields, more starvation, more malnutrition
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> Blind opposition to industrial progress -- which is what you are suggesting -- carried by the rising tide of public opinion will cause a ton of damage in the century to come, and the damage will never be repaid. What damage will be caused by people using their phones less for fear of getting cancer? What about GMOs? What is the harm in not using them? The EU has mostly banned them and it doesn't look to be sufferi…
With regards to GMOs, the green revolution (as I understand it[1], partly using GMOs to increase food production, especially in developing countries) is often described as saving a billion lives. On a brief glance, I can't find a detailed estimate of the Humanitarian effects, but Borlaug received a Nobel peace prize for it and that scale of impact does seem plausible. [1] See discussion below about relative importanc…
I'm sure Monsanto and the GMO lobby's objective was saving lives in developing countries, not profits. When they pushed GMOs bundled with pesticides and herbicides they did so aided by the corruption in these countries, where the farmers were doing quite fine replanting seeds. Now they're abusing a BASF product to ripen tomatoes overnight.
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I helped get a device through part15 testing during an internship and was shocked to find that you don’t need the same firmware (like at all. You can run totally different oses and everything, they don’t have to share a single line of code.) As long as you say “this is pretty much the same as what we’re shipping to users” you’re fine. They don’t really have anyway to double check it and to be honest I wouldn’t be tot…
Random sample testing after the product ships with large fines for violators.
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