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Didn't stop them from bringing itunes or icloud. I've just found it weird apple hasn't had a web version at least.
How could you do a web version of iMessages without losing end-to-end encryption?
WebCrypto?
Microsoft says it would love to work with Apple to bring iMessage support to Win
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Re: Microsoft says it would love to work with Apple to bring iMessage support to Win
#22I am surprised Apple have not extended iMessage to a web interface that relies on the iPhone iMessage app to do all the work in the same way that WhatsApp Web works.
You don't lose E2EE, you keep the requirement of having an iPhone, etc.
Sure they have the macOS desktop iMessage app but a web interface would be great for iPhone owners who don't use macOS of which there are many.
They could easily wrap such a web service up in Electron just like WhatsApp does for their Windows Store desktop app.
I guess Apple relying on Electron isn't likely to happen but there is no reason they couldn't over-engineer it with their own embedded browser solution.
They already have the technology as it is used for iTunes on Windows (which, interestingly, is now available in the Windows Store via Desktop Bridge).
Re: Microsoft says it would love to work with Apple to bring iMessage support to Win
#23It will never happen, iMessage is one of the network effects of Apple/iPhone ecosystem.
I wouldn’t so sure. Microsoft owns enterprise, Apple owns enterprise mobility.
Microsoft needs a partner on mobile, Apple needs a partner for AI and services.
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#24This isn't a big deal really. However Microsoft wants the real secret sauce. They either want A: Apple to build a client in Windows with C#. Or possibly B: wants to able to allow swift compilation on Windows thus opening the door wide open for app ecosystem. You think probably not but then again WSL.
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#25Do yourself a favor and skip the comment section or you'll see where the "technologically illiterate yet happy to pontificate apple fanboy" stereotype comes.
except this is more about politics than technology
When I made this comment the top comments on the article were about how opening up the iMessage protocol would cause it to become riddled with security vulnerabilities.
Re: Microsoft says it would love to work with Apple to bring iMessage support to Win
#26I'm sure Microsoft would also love to work with Nintendo to bring Mario and Zelda to Windows as well.
Re: Microsoft says it would love to work with Apple to bring iMessage support to Win
#27I am surprised Apple have not extended iMessage to a web interface that relies on the iPhone iMessage app to do all the work in the same way that WhatsApp Web works. You don't lose E2EE, you keep the requirement of having an iPhone, etc. Sure they have the macOS desktop iMessage app but a web interface would be great for iPhone owners who don't use macOS of which there are many . They could easily wrap such a web ser…
Apple using Electron is extremely unlikely. They’re more likely to port iMessage to Windows with the Windows port of the Objective-C runtime + Cocoa + Foundation (a sort of modernized YellowBox[1]) they used to port iTunes and previously Safari to Windows.
The browser used in the Windows version of iTunes is WebKit, not Chromium.
1: http://www.shawcomputing.net/resources/apple/os_pictures/ybn...
Re: Microsoft says it would love to work with Apple to bring iMessage support to Win
#28This isn't a big deal really. However Microsoft wants the real secret sauce. They either want A: Apple to build a client in Windows with C#. Or possibly B: wants to able to allow swift compilation on Windows thus opening the door wide open for app ecosystem. You think probably not but then again WSL.
Microsoft has literally tens of thousands of engineers capable of building the client for Windows if Apple will let them. I am certain that no one on this integration project cares whether Apple actually does the work, only whether they allow it.
Disclosure: Microsoft employee, but nowhere near this group.
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#29I know it won't ever happen, but releasing it would really help reframe Apple's increasingly more obvious unfair shake it gives its customers.
Re: Microsoft says it would love to work with Apple to bring iMessage support to Win
#30It will never happen, iMessage is one of the network effects of Apple/iPhone ecosystem.
so dumb though. though could own messaging, which would be way more valuable than whatever tiny bump it's giving to the iphone.
What use is it to own messaging if they don't make money from it? Apple got out of the advertising business years ago.