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4chan DDoS Takes Down MPAA and Anti-Piracy Websites

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Re: 4chan DDoS Takes Down MPAA and Anti-Piracy Websites

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Post by aw3c2 »

darrikmazey wrote: post #8
16s wrote: post #6

For the young guys out there, you should know that DOS is illegal. If an individual is caught doing this, they could end-up in jail or in the least get a criminal record. So, if you want a decent job and to be a productive member of society, don't DOS websites. Your IP address is not anonymous.

Also for the young kids: illegal is not always synonymous with immoral, and sometimes to be a productive member of society you have to step across that line.

How is DDOSing some websites productive? I would call appearing like immature bullies rather counter-productive if you fight for improving your rights.

Re: 4chan DDoS Takes Down MPAA and Anti-Piracy Websites

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Post by [deleted] »

aw3c2 wrote: post #11
darrikmazey wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also for the young kids: illegal is not always synonymous with immoral, and sometimes to be a productive member of society you have to step across that line.

How is DDOSing some websites productive? I would call appearing like immature bullies rather counter-productive if you fight for improving your rights.

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Re: 4chan DDoS Takes Down MPAA and Anti-Piracy Websites

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Post by pvg »

We target the bastard group that has thus far led this charge against our websites. [...] We have the manpower, we have the botnets, it’s time we do to them what they keep doing to us.

What else, they stabbed us in the back? I know I'm breaking Godwin laws here but that's some pretty sickening Kristallnacht rhetoric there.

Re: 4chan DDoS Takes Down MPAA and Anti-Piracy Websites

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Post by chrischen »

darrikmazey wrote: post #8
16s wrote: post #6

For the young guys out there, you should know that DOS is illegal. If an individual is caught doing this, they could end-up in jail or in the least get a criminal record. So, if you want a decent job and to be a productive member of society, don't DOS websites. Your IP address is not anonymous.

Also for the young kids: illegal is not always synonymous with immoral, and sometimes to be a productive member of society you have to step across that line.

DDoS or human flesh search would be morally acceptable IF there were no other recourse in society for justice. In china the government is authoritarian and the people have human flesh searches as their effective form of justice. But to condone illegal activity for change in places like the united states is to suggest that there is critical flaw in the democratic process. Is there? Because if there is then we should acknowledge that and fix that too instead of relying on mob rule all the time. The only person I can see who morally justifies this (for him/herself) would be some teenager who has never been allowed to vote (thus not having any other recourse for change). But I think its irresponsible to encourage these who must be kids to take the illegal route to get what they want if there is a viable legal route. Write your senator or something, don't cheer the mob on. Make sure you're not operating on impulse.

Re: 4chan DDoS Takes Down MPAA and Anti-Piracy Websites

#15

Post by lewi »

aw3c2 wrote: post #11
darrikmazey wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also for the young kids: illegal is not always synonymous with immoral, and sometimes to be a productive member of society you have to step across that line.

How is DDOSing some websites productive? I would call appearing like immature bullies rather counter-productive if you fight for improving your rights.

He didn't say that, he was just stating a simple truth

Re: 4chan DDoS Takes Down MPAA and Anti-Piracy Websites

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Post by anthonyb »

chrischen wrote: post #14
darrikmazey wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also for the young kids: illegal is not always synonymous with immoral, and sometimes to be a productive member of society you have to step across that line.

DDoS or human flesh search would be morally acceptable IF there were no other recourse in society for justice. In china the government is authoritarian and the people have human flesh searches as their effective form of justice. But to condone illegal activity for change in places like the united states is to suggest that there is critical flaw in the democratic process. Is there? Because if there is then we should a…

The MPAA has powerful lobbyists. I can see people being disenfranchised pretty easily, at which point, what's your recourse? Vote in the next guy who'll be just as easily swayed? I don't agree with DDOS'ing people, but I can understand how some people might think it's one of the few options which might bring about change.

Re: 4chan DDoS Takes Down MPAA and Anti-Piracy Websites

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Post by by »

alextgordon wrote: post #7

Oddly, while giving a tutorial on how to be a part of the DDoS, the article misses out the minor detail that it is in fact illegal.

Participating in a distributed denial of service attack is not necessarily illegal. There has to be some intent on the part of the visitor to cause damage. You could get involved in one just by innocently visiting a malicious web page which makes your browser download large files from the victim. Or suppose I set up an under-sized server with a very popular web application, the server might collapse under the load, but my visitors would not automatically become criminals when my server went down.

Re: 4chan DDoS Takes Down MPAA and Anti-Piracy Websites

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Post by [deleted] »

darrikmazey wrote: post #8
16s wrote: post #6

For the young guys out there, you should know that DOS is illegal. If an individual is caught doing this, they could end-up in jail or in the least get a criminal record. So, if you want a decent job and to be a productive member of society, don't DOS websites. Your IP address is not anonymous.

Also for the young kids: illegal is not always synonymous with immoral, and sometimes to be a productive member of society you have to step across that line.

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Re: 4chan DDoS Takes Down MPAA and Anti-Piracy Websites

#19

Post by alextgordon »

by wrote: post #17
alextgordon wrote: post #7

Oddly, while giving a tutorial on how to be a part of the DDoS, the article misses out the minor detail that it is in fact illegal.

Participating in a distributed denial of service attack is not necessarily illegal. There has to be some intent on the part of the visitor to cause damage. You could get involved in one just by innocently visiting a malicious web page which makes your browser download large files from the victim. Or suppose I set up an under-sized server with a very popular web application, the server might collapse under the load, b…

My comment was in the context of the article. I'd say firing up LOIC is plenty enough intent for it to be illegal.

Re: 4chan DDoS Takes Down MPAA and Anti-Piracy Websites

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Post by paul9290 »

I think they need a new target. This would make more sense five or so years ago as these organizations have bended to the market. I can now for free use YouTube or vevo listen to any song I want either on my pc or thru their iPhone apps. Similarly use hulu , Justin TV or YouTube to watch for free mpaa content.
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