Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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Post by xxs » Thu, May 10, 2018, 8:08 PM UTC

badpun wrote: post #246

magduf wrote: post #220

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The people experiencing dropped calls aren't the people who made the purchasing decision. The people experiencing poor performance don't have a say in the matter and are required to use the tool, and the people who made the purchasing decision are getting what they want out of the deal.

In case of my company (a 40k employees multinational), everybody gets to suffer from Skype for Business' ridiculousness, I'm guessing even the people who bought it (heck, I'm guessing even the CEO is cursing it on a regular basis). Still, we use it.

Skype for business is not even 'skype'. Actually, it's "lync" branded as skype. Overall it's an awful product with hilarious built-in html render that ends in CPU saturation during group chat and a bit of html content. It takes like a minute to close itself if there are 20-30 chats.

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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Post by inetknght » Thu, May 10, 2018, 8:09 PM UTC

fhood wrote: post #80

consumer451 wrote: post #70

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I believe they have stopped putting much effort into Skype for Business and are hoping to move everyone to Teams ASAP.

I have heard this before, but it doesn't explain why it was ever released without features such as, I don't know, WORKING CONVERSATION HISTORY!

Skype used to have working conversation history. It's one of the features which was removed.

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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Post by exitcode00 » Thu, May 10, 2018, 8:10 PM UTC

kome wrote: post #34

The article is about "Skype for Business". But let's talk about the Skype for consumers. They transformed a nice software in one of the most clunky and unusable and frustrating experiences ever. The UI is just that broken. The thing is that try to follow all the last shitty trends of development and webdesign, and the results are absolutely horrible. The new Skype "electron"-like interface for MacOS is the worst UI I…

The thing is, they threw out the whole qt app and rewrote it inside the miserably slow javascript toy. Windows 10 might ad well just be an ie12 tab at this point...

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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Post by hinkley » Thu, May 10, 2018, 8:11 PM UTC

komali2 wrote: post #262

I bet one hundred dollars that if I tried to login to my old Skype account right now, it would take an hour to figure out how the fuck to reset my password, because"Microsoft account" bullshit. I bet it would take me three hours to make a new account, for the same reason. Try making an account for Microsoft's iot cloud thing. Good luck. Edit: https://youtu.be/lfby-SOWWqQ So, holy shit, somehow it auto populated maybe…

When I started reading this I assumed when you said old account that you were after your contacts, not some vanity url.

From that standpoint you didn’t really get what you were after, despite the process not being as painful as you anticipated. So maybe you didn’t make your point, but you made a point.

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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Post by sunstone » Thu, May 10, 2018, 8:12 PM UTC

Skype was bought during the era of Ballmer and it was quite predictably going to deteriorate. Almost immediately Microsoft re-architected skype from being peer-to-peer to a central server backend. The primary purpose for doing this seemed pretty clearly to make eavesdropping easier.

Some suspected at the time that Microsoft was acting as a proxy for the US government in taking over Skype because otherwise the business justification looked pretty shaky given the purchase price and the relative ease of creating a competing technology. Given all of that people abandoned the system in droves.

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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Post by supernovae » Thu, May 10, 2018, 8:13 PM UTC

komali2 wrote: post #262

I bet one hundred dollars that if I tried to login to my old Skype account right now, it would take an hour to figure out how the fuck to reset my password, because"Microsoft account" bullshit. I bet it would take me three hours to make a new account, for the same reason. Try making an account for Microsoft's iot cloud thing. Good luck. Edit: https://youtu.be/lfby-SOWWqQ So, holy shit, somehow it auto populated maybe…

The microsoft account page has greatly improved over the years... if its been that long since you skyped your guild mates what would that have anything to do with anything?

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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Post by jacksmith21006 » Thu, May 10, 2018, 8:13 PM UTC

Now use Duo. Have kids now spread around and video conference them in at our Sunday dinner and Duo has very good video quality and way better audio quality versus anything else have tried.

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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Post by nickserv » Thu, May 10, 2018, 8:14 PM UTC

duskwuff wrote: post #213

abiox wrote: post #162

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> are banned what's the story behind that? (i'm not familiar with that domain.)

JWZ is not a fan of being linked to by HN. JWZ redirects referrals from HN to an obscene image.

I was disappointed, no obscene image when I clicked on the link. Using Firefox for Android, if it matters.

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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Post by ConceptJunkie » Thu, May 10, 2018, 8:17 PM UTC

badpun wrote: post #246

magduf wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people experiencing dropped calls aren't the people who made the purchasing decision. The people experiencing poor performance don't have a say in the matter and are required to use the tool, and the people who made the purchasing decision are getting what they want out of the deal.

In case of my company (a 40k employees multinational), everybody gets to suffer from Skype for Business' ridiculousness, I'm guessing even the people who bought it (heck, I'm guessing even the CEO is cursing it on a regular basis). Still, we use it.

And this is proof that Microsoft is still a monopoly, because they can still force people to use software they don't want. Microsoft's biggest accomplishment in technology in the last 20 years is to teach everyone that software is horrible and there's nothing that can be done about it.

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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Post by artmageddon » Thu, May 10, 2018, 8:19 PM UTC

imnotadoctor999 wrote: post #264

komali2 wrote: post #262

I bet one hundred dollars that if I tried to login to my old Skype account right now, it would take an hour to figure out how the fuck to reset my password, because"Microsoft account" bullshit. I bet it would take me three hours to make a new account, for the same reason. Try making an account for Microsoft's iot cloud thing. Good luck. Edit: https://youtu.be/lfby-SOWWqQ So, holy shit, somehow it auto populated maybe…

I thought I was the only one suffering with this!

Same here! I even saved my password in KeePass only to find I still can't login!