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Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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I bet one hundred dollars that if I tried to login to my old Skype account right now, it would take an hour to figure out how the fuck to reset my password, because"Microsoft account" bullshit.

I bet it would take me three hours to make a new account, for the same reason.

Try making an account for Microsoft's iot cloud thing. Good luck.

Edit: https://youtu.be/lfby-SOWWqQ

So, holy shit, somehow it auto populated maybe using Google smart Lock, and logged me straight in... To an account I don't remember ever creating. No contacts or anything so it's not my old legacy account. Lemme see about logging in on my old one

Edit2: guess it's time for me to eat my own words. I definitely remember this being an absolute nightmare. Turns out the hardest part was accessing my decade and a half old Yahoo account https://youtu.be/QVLz08OiMGk all my old contacts are lost though :( bye bye old WoW guildmates

I do maintain that the iot site is garbage and I still can't log in or create an account on it.

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

#264

I bet one hundred dollars that if I tried to login to my old Skype account right now, it would take an hour to figure out how the fuck to reset my password, because"Microsoft account" bullshit. I bet it would take me three hours to make a new account, for the same reason. Try making an account for Microsoft's iot cloud thing. Good luck. Edit: https://youtu.be/lfby-SOWWqQ So, holy shit, somehow it auto populated maybe…

I thought I was the only one suffering with this!

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Skype for Business is actually being deprecated and replaced with Microsoft Teams[0]. Microsoft Teams is impressive that it actually manages to have a worse desktop client than Skype for Business, and the web site is barely any better. If people on O365 haven't used it, they should since Microsoft will force it on you sooner or later. It is like Microsoft wanted to clone a bunch of popular services (e.g. Slack) and j…

I feel compelled reiterate to the world how astonishingly bad Teams is. We've been using it since its release and some days I'm convinced that there must be some internal management issue causing employees to deliberately sabotage the product.

It's fine. If they made it a lot faster it would be decent.

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

#267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Skype for Business is actually being deprecated and replaced with Microsoft Teams[0]. Microsoft Teams is impressive that it actually manages to have a worse desktop client than Skype for Business, and the web site is barely any better. If people on O365 haven't used it, they should since Microsoft will force it on you sooner or later. It is like Microsoft wanted to clone a bunch of popular services (e.g. Slack) and j…

I feel compelled reiterate to the world how astonishingly bad Teams is. We've been using it since its release and some days I'm convinced that there must be some internal management issue causing employees to deliberately sabotage the product.

Actually, I forgot about attachments and sharing. Those are not great either.

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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My view in the past was, that MSFT was essentially paid by the NSA to buy Skype and then remove the ability to make secure calls with it, by sending all the media (audio/video) through centralized servers that could easily tap the calls. Am I incorrect in that? Previously, Skype was peer-to-peer after the call was setup, with Skype servers only helping in setting up the call (essentially updating the registry of "who…

It’s hard to remember back to those days but there was a huge legal/congressional pushback against p2p technology driven by the big media companies who saw p2p as the core enabler of file sharing. One side effect was the legal risks of providing p2p services were looking way heavier than traditional client service services. Skype was also heavily used in those days by people who wanted “anonymity” not from the govern…

I remember back then ISPs would just block p2p traffic outright every once in a while to see if they could get away with it.

One time I got a piracy warning (not dmca, just like an angry generalized letter) because I had p2p traffic... For torrenting Ubuntu lol

Re: Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand

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"Since acquiring Skype from private equity investors, Microsoft has refocused the online calling service on the corporate market, a change that has made Skype less intuitive and harder to use ..." This is absolutely not the bulk of the problem: simply put, the call quality is horrendous and dropping calls in the middle of the meeting is quite common. Modus operandi in most Skype conference calls in our company is to…

This is a direct consequence of Skype going from a peer-to-peer model where the servers were just used during call set-up to a far more centralized model. I stopped using Skype shortly after Microsoft acquired it and started streaming all calls through their DC, I could see no other reason than surveillance for it.

This right here. Skype used to have amazing call experiences, then they screwed it all up. Discord atm is more reliable than Skype, but who the hell is going to use Discord under a business environment sadly?
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