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Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Post by bonzini »

sandworm101 wrote: post #123
tuomosipola wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems strange that Gnome is heading to an non-intuitive direction. You could have all the cool stuff but I think you also should provide the familiar Desktop metaphor elements. I already made a comment about the missing type-ahead search in Nautilus file browser, which decision destroys many people's workflows.

>> It seems strange that Gnome is heading to an non-intuitive direction. Really? I've never heard anything but non-intuitive ramblings from UI design people. None of them seem to ever actually use computers. Rather, they dream up use cases based on contrived scenarios. I want one thing: The icon is where it was yesterday. Gnome, unity all the others have one job: Let me launch the program I need and get the F out of…

What's wrong with Windows key->type "email"->Enter? That's how GNOME works.

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Post by nnm »

rdtsc wrote: post #200

Am I the only one who didn't hate Unity? I wonder if it was an effect of people who didn't like it complained and threw hissy fits. Those that liked or didn't mind, didn't say anything. So it _seemed_ as if everyone hated and they just had to replace it. I've observed that pattern happen with product features before. A customer chimes vocally that they hate something, another does etc. An issue is created, work start…

I like Unity and did not have good impressions of GNOME.

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Post by amdavidson »

jessaustin wrote: post #173

After updating to 18.04, local DNS no longer works on this machine. It worked before. It seems that the systemd "stub" resolver isn't failing over to the LAN DNS server specified by DHCP. resolve.conf is just a single reference to systemd-resolved. It seems systemd-resolved knows about the LAN DNS server: $ systemd-resolve --status | head -4 Global DNS Servers: 192.168.88.1 It's not using it though: $ nslookup laser…

This is "by design"[0], though you should have seen it crop up in 17.04 when it became the default. I was bitten by it too and disabled systemd-resolved.

0: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6224#issuecomment-...

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Post by fb03 »

Rapzid wrote: post #182
fb03 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have exactly the same setup, then :-) I need Win10 for low latency music work and for the odd game, all development work happens in Xubuntu VMs. Windows is essentially a shell where I juggle vms when I need a dev environment for a specific client. I use VirtualBox as my virtualization solution and what I found was that using Xubuntu made the whole "linux in a vm" experience much more snappier, and since I basicall…

When I was rolling on company hardware(MacBook Pro) I got incredibly frustrated with the experience of running even Xubuntu in VirtualBox; the OSX Virtualbox experience is beyond abysmal :| This lead me to purchasing a personal VMware license for OSX. Back on Windows 10 I re-evaluated VirtualBox, Hyper-V with the new linux enhanced session support(poor experience TBH), and VMware workstation player. VMware ended up b…

Thank you, I'll give it a run!

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Post by linuxftw »

rdtsc wrote: post #200

Am I the only one who didn't hate Unity? I wonder if it was an effect of people who didn't like it complained and threw hissy fits. Those that liked or didn't mind, didn't say anything. So it _seemed_ as if everyone hated and they just had to replace it. I've observed that pattern happen with product features before. A customer chimes vocally that they hate something, another does etc. An issue is created, work start…

I didn't hate it, but it was buggy and slow IMO.

I believe it was discontinued due to Canonical's strategy of dropping mobile support. Unity was an effort to have a unified desktop across devices, I believe.

Canonical is pivoting towards enterprise software [1]

1: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/10/why-did-ubuntu-drop-unit...

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Post by stefs »

panic story time: updated yesterday. after the update, reboot. full disk encryption doesn't accept my password anymore. fuck. full panic mode. already searching for an usb stick to get a clean install, although it may take a couple of hours to get the machine back into a working state.

luckily my colleague knew what was going on. i had special characters in my password and after the update, the keyboard layout changed from german to english.

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Post by 3princip »

rdtsc wrote: post #200

Am I the only one who didn't hate Unity? I wonder if it was an effect of people who didn't like it complained and threw hissy fits. Those that liked or didn't mind, didn't say anything. So it _seemed_ as if everyone hated and they just had to replace it. I've observed that pattern happen with product features before. A customer chimes vocally that they hate something, another does etc. An issue is created, work start…

I loved Unity, and was pretty apprehensive about the change back to Gnome in 17.10. To my surprise, having hated gnome 3 when it came out years ago, the transition has been almost painless.

The Ubuntu team have done a great job, the "new" settings screens are especially nice IMO.

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Post by jopsen »

stefs wrote: post #236

panic story time: updated yesterday. after the update, reboot. full disk encryption doesn't accept my password anymore. fuck. full panic mode. already searching for an usb stick to get a clean install, although it may take a couple of hours to get the machine back into a working state. luckily my colleague knew what was going on. i had special characters in my password and after the update, the keyboard layout change…

The disk encryption seems very robust.

I encrypted my external hard drive with LUKS and plugging it into old Linux installs just work :)

So I wouldn't panic before trying it with a usb stick..

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Post by znpy »

Ygg2 wrote: post #49
znpy wrote: post #48

Xubuntu for the win.

I keep Xubuntu in a VM. It performs perfectly.

> It performs perfectly.

THIS! This, so many times. Xfce lets you actually use your computer to accomplish tasks without getting in the way and/or forcing you any "intended usage".

It is so good and so light, it's light-years ahead of Gnome.

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Post by [deleted] »

tapoxi wrote: post #133
shabbyrobe wrote: post #77

> Ubuntu has done a bit of tweaking so that you can actually put launchers, folders, and files on your desktop, which should be welcome news for many Ubuntu users. How long that will last is an open question, though, since GNOME just completely removed the code that made it possible for Canonical to enable this feature. I was curious about this and went spelunking for more information. https://community.ubuntu.com/t/…

> the Desktop filesystem metaphor is used by almost every single computer user I have ever seen Smartphones, tablets, and Chromebooks are incredibly popular and lack a desktop. ChromeOS is the most similar to GNOME here, in that it has a desktop wallpaper but you cannot create anything there.

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