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Young Chinese are sick of working long hours

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I was kind of surprised by this. I would have though that speaking decent English would be a fairly valuable skill for Chinese companies that operate outside of China.

An understanding of history and ethics and psychology is also a valuable skill, but if that's your only skill, you'll be making lattes.

It's perfectly possible as a Chinese person in China to enjoy a solid middle-class lifestyle based only on your ability to speak English.

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9-9-6 work culture isn't horrible. In Taiwan, people usually pretends to being hardly working, no matter he or she are goofing. The boss are pleased by getting the "free" man-hours from his employers and believing this are leading to the more product outputs. Finally, if you're more hardly working, you're just possibly losting more "earn value" by yourself in some odd industries.

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> Li said that initially he felt he couldn’t be too be picky: he had majored in English, not in one of the sought-after science or technology fields, and he had attended a low-ranked university. Many of his friends are unemployed. To me, this was the most interesting part of the article. It all sounds so familiar.

New Chinese (non-STEM) grads have it worse, amazingly enough. The central government demanded more graduates at any cost, threw money at the problem and they ended up with corruption, very expensive facilities and many times more graduates with questionable skills in subjects that mostly aren't yet in demand.

This all sounds so familiar too. :) Is a global problem.

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In ancient cultures it was considered normal to leave a baby to die if you didn't want to raise it. Should we bring that back too?

Abortion serves, in modern society, essentially the same function as abandonment.

Our law does not consider those things equivalent and I bet if you went around and asked many people would not consider that equivalent either.

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Abortion serves, in modern society, essentially the same function as abandonment.

Or adoption. Or I mean... it's not like people don't still abandon their babies if they really want to.

So... you're saying that society provides a more humane option so that we no longer leave children to die of exposure. Unlike in the past.

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An understanding of history and ethics and psychology is also a valuable skill, but if that's your only skill, you'll be making lattes.

It's perfectly possible as a Chinese person in China to enjoy a solid middle-class lifestyle based only on your ability to speak English.

It seems that is no longer the case.

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Back before the 40 hour work week a lot of those tasks were outsourced to wives.

> During the 40 hour week that work was outsourced to wives It wasn't until the late 70s that married women start to maintain full time jobs in large numbers (The 'quiet revolution'), but the 40 hour week was in place 30 years earlier. Of course now we have the situation where you have to have two full time earners to run a household. When I was at highschool in the 90s, I was quite unusual in having two working pare…

There's a good joke in there about women joining the work force to get away from their husbands who were now home more with that 40 hour work week.

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I grew up in China. What 'monthly meeting' (where 'you hear a "sermon" and sing some patriotic songs') is your wife talking about? That sounds bizarre

She's from Fujian. It was some kind of communist party community meeting.

Careful with generalizing. Southerners, and very especially Fujianese, are less patriotic than Chinese in other parts of China, especially the north.

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I went to China and everyone i met was doing 9-5 monday to friday. A school leaver with no qualifications in his chosen career finds his first job is crap is not really world news. Change jobs and hang in there kid. China's unemployment rate is lower than the uk where this article originates. You have labour laws. The worst expected unpaid overtime hours i ever worked or saw worked was in a bank in London. 885 was to…

China’s official unemployment rate is lower, but who knows where the real number rises, and there is a lot of gaming the system going kB (especially with lesser tier universities forcing students to get fake jobs before they can graduate).

Chinese were working 6 days a week universally until around 15 years ago, it still isn’t rare to hear if someone who has to work every Saturday (especially in tech).

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Sort of off topic but maybe not: I'm in Chengdu right now, my first trip to China since 2010. I had previously just been to Beijing among Chinese cities (lots of time camping in Xizang backcountry otherwise). Chengdu is so tranquil, orderly and clean compared to the Beijing of my memory. People don't yell or spit, traffic lights are obeyed and drivers slow for pedestrians, the city is quite nice. Is this just the dif…

That's just a Chengdu thing. I don't know why precisely but it's widely considered one of the nicest Chinese cities. A few local I know even claimed it's the San Francisco of China, whatever that means.
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