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Seaweed in Cow Feed Reduces Methane Emissions Almost Entirely

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Re: Seaweed in Cow Feed Reduces Methane Emissions Almost Entirely

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Post by SlowRobotAhead »

Mister_X wrote: post #59

It will be interesting to see how this plays out, because right now the West coast from San Francisco North to at least Fort Bragg, has been suffering a kelp die off of great proportions. No one is quite sure whats going on, but apparently due to climate change, or at least warmer ocean water from further South that we've had for the last 5 or more years, has caused the kelp to die off at a rapid rate, to the point o…

"No one is quite sure whats going on, but apparently due to climate change"

Look... statements like that, don't help any serious arguments for climate change.

To practical-skeptics, you might as well have written "IDK BUT WE BETTER FAVOR SOME COMPANIES WITH TAXES TO BE SAFE" which is a real annoyance of mine.

Esp considering other commenters pretty much ruled out your assumption.

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Post by cfadvan »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #211
Mister_X wrote: post #59

It will be interesting to see how this plays out, because right now the West coast from San Francisco North to at least Fort Bragg, has been suffering a kelp die off of great proportions. No one is quite sure whats going on, but apparently due to climate change, or at least warmer ocean water from further South that we've had for the last 5 or more years, has caused the kelp to die off at a rapid rate, to the point o…

"No one is quite sure whats going on, but apparently due to climate change" Look... statements like that, don't help any serious arguments for climate change. To practical-skeptics, you might as well have written "IDK BUT WE BETTER FAVOR SOME COMPANIES WITH TAXES TO BE SAFE" which is a real annoyance of mine. Esp considering other commenters pretty much ruled out your assumption.

AGW skeptics, like evolution and spheroid Earth skeptics are their own audience, no one else is really bothering to tailor their speech to them. We’ve entered the casually dismissive phase of the relationship. The ROI for dealing with people who are in denial is rarely positive after all.

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Post by rfeather »

rileyphone wrote: post #194
asimpletune wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Woah, I was really surprised by the different sizes of the fish.

Important to note is that the biggest fish caught in the 50s and 60s seem to all be goliath groupers (also known as jewfish) and are now critically endangered and illegal to keep. I imagine they still catch some on these charter boats, but they are required to release them once they do.

The unfortunate thing is that no matter whether something is illegal or not, it can still be a victim of bycatch when fishing for legal species, and bycatch mortality is quite high. Bycatch is actually higher than actual catch by weight for some fisheries+methods.[1] It's not just what you eat, but where it came from.

[1] http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/t4890e/t4890e03.htm

Edit: A couple of extra spaces removed

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Post by neves »

cfadvan wrote: post #212
SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"No one is quite sure whats going on, but apparently due to climate change" Look... statements like that, don't help any serious arguments for climate change. To practical-skeptics, you might as well have written "IDK BUT WE BETTER FAVOR SOME COMPANIES WITH TAXES TO BE SAFE" which is a real annoyance of mine. Esp considering other commenters pretty much ruled out your assumption.

AGW skeptics, like evolution and spheroid Earth skeptics are their own audience, no one else is really bothering to tailor their speech to them. We’ve entered the casually dismissive phase of the relationship. The ROI for dealing with people who are in denial is rarely positive after all.

I was watching the marvelous new edition of the Comos series, and it was really annoying the time spend rebuffing theories like "evolution does not exist" or "no prove of global warning". Please give more of the good stuff.

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Post by scruple »

jessaustin wrote: post #129
scruple wrote: post #20

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>I need more dill in my life! Yeah, sure, _until you don't_. Bear in mind that it's essentially an invasive weed if you have a backyard garden. Be careful if you attempt to grow it at home, it might take over.

I find cilantro completely outcompetes dill.

I'll have to give that a try, thanks!

Re: Seaweed in Cow Feed Reduces Methane Emissions Almost Entirely

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Post by [deleted] »

cfadvan wrote: post #212
SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"No one is quite sure whats going on, but apparently due to climate change" Look... statements like that, don't help any serious arguments for climate change. To practical-skeptics, you might as well have written "IDK BUT WE BETTER FAVOR SOME COMPANIES WITH TAXES TO BE SAFE" which is a real annoyance of mine. Esp considering other commenters pretty much ruled out your assumption.

AGW skeptics, like evolution and spheroid Earth skeptics are their own audience, no one else is really bothering to tailor their speech to them. We’ve entered the casually dismissive phase of the relationship. The ROI for dealing with people who are in denial is rarely positive after all.

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Re: Seaweed in Cow Feed Reduces Methane Emissions Almost Entirely

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Post by craftyguy »

hinkley wrote: post #175
lbenes wrote: post #172

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> building coral and sea life is super simple No. First you need an unpolluted area of ocean with the right conditions. And even then, thinking like yours can create more problems than it solves. Just look how the Osborne artificial reef actually led to an environmental disaster and massive cleanup effort. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/may/22/florida-retr...

That story just keeps on giving. > The tires, which were dumped before recycling was possible, will be trucked across the state to Florida’s west coast and burned for energy at a Wheelebrator Technologies renewable waste plant near Tampa, owned by private equity firm Energy Capital Partners. We could recycle the tires, but fuck it, let’s burn them instead so this is an unmitigated disaster.

> renewable waste plant

I'm still trying to figure out what they mean by that. The plant is generating renewable waste? Or it's fed by a 'renewable' source of waste? I don't think tires are a renewable resource.

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Post by haroldp »

dghughes wrote: post #210

There is a big industry in seaweed harvesting carrageenan is extracted from it to use as a thickener it's used in ice cream and other products. The 2014 study mentioned is from my region the Atlantic Veterinary College. There was a large Irish Moss industry here years ago but most of it has switched to Asian markets with cheaper labour and tropical climate. Although there may soon be a glut of seaweed and any cattle…

> of course it's harmless

Unless you're celiac. It is close enough to gluten that many celiacs have the same reaction to carrageenan as gluten. The real flavor of the month is gluten-free and it's getting swept up in that.

Re: Seaweed in Cow Feed Reduces Methane Emissions Almost Entirely

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Post by haroldp »

okreallywtf wrote: post #180

Serious question, what incentive is there for this to be done on a large scale by anyone? The EPA is being systematically dismantled and the official line of the government (or at least, those in charge of the government) is that climate change is not man made. If it is just a natural process, how could our food systems have any impact on it? I can't imagine how this wouldn't add at least some costs to feed prices, a…

Slap a "No Cow Farts" sticker/logo on beef raised with a sufficient level of seaweed in their diet. Choose that instead of farty-beef at the store.

Don't expect anything to work as well as individuals changing their minds about what is important and acting on it.

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