A female engineer's opinion on why there are fewer women in tech

Post by leshow » Thu, May 10, 2018, 1:41 PM UTC

crankylinuxuser wrote: post #230

leshow wrote: post #184

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Don't they pay about as much as the male dominated jobs? brickmason, drywall installation, crane operator, roofer, etc All of these jobs have 95%+ males. I can't imagine they pay very well. That's genuinely a question, not trying to be smart. It seems to me like jobs on both ends of the spectrum might not pay the best.

Stonemason - $42,370 - https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes472022.htm Drywall/Ceiling tile installer - $49,250 - https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes472081.htm Crane and Tower Operators - $55,690 - https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes537021.htm LPN - $45,030 - https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/licensed-practical-and-li... !Requires licensure Social Worker - $47,980 - https://www.bls.gov/ooh/community-and-social-service…

Post by ropeadopepope » Thu, May 10, 2018, 2:46 PM UTC

pseudalopex wrote: post #442

ropeadopepope wrote: post #240

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Be attractive. Don't be unattractive. Your job now depends on it. Unless you work 100% remote and don't use video chat.

"Incels" are a self-identified group that don't represent all sexually frustrated men, and "What are you going to do about it?" can have answers besides "root them out and fire them".

Post by indoorfish » Thu, May 10, 2018, 3:18 PM UTC

commandlinefan wrote: post #278

Jach wrote: post #254

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How did that play out in the end if you don't mind sharing? Did you make "no comment" as to whether you actually said that, deny saying it altogether, or be honest (as I think is an engineer's inclination) that you said those words as an in-context joke? Did you wish you tried one of the other approaches?

LOL, yep, I was completely honest about it. My boss said something like, "Hm, I guess maybe things sound different here under the cold lights of the office environment" (I don't remember his exactly words, but "cold lights" was something that actually did come out of his mouth). In the end, they filed a report, gave me a warning to keep their bases covered, and I got on with my life. She was as difficult for everybod…

Post by geebee » Thu, May 10, 2018, 4:51 PM UTC

meowface wrote: post #425

geebee wrote: post #414

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The point seems fairly clear to me. arkis22 is pointing out that this author is making unfavorable generalizations about men, and stating that these generalizations are probably partly due to biology. Here, it is that women assign greater value to close friendships. Later, she states that: "My experience confirms that teenage and college-age girls care more than boys do about solving real human problem (as opposed to…

I see, their point is that this particular woman can talk about biological differences but Damore can't. (I misinterpreted the poster as saying that the author was contradicting herself by rebuking Damore, which she wasn't, but that's not what they meant.) That is a valid point. But the issue should be taken with Google's leadership and the individuals who unjustly raked Damore over the coals (his post-termination be…

Post by lph » Thu, May 10, 2018, 5:18 PM UTC

wieghant wrote: post #206

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #58

> [If you’re a dude and you’re reading this article] Go befriend a girl in your class or company. It’s not creepy. Include her, ask her for advice, introduce her, learn about her work and her life in the same way you would with any male friend or coworker. If you’re an investor, professor, journalist, or manager, take it on yourself to sponsor a young woman’s career. While I totally agree with this advice, I think th…

We recently got a new female analyst. We invite her for lunch and sometimes have small talk. Thing is, there's literally zero chemistry. We can't include here in our dumb Skype chat because its usually filled with incredibly dumb offensive memes - so we just try to keep our laughs down. We tried invite her to video game night and even organized board games just because she wasn't into video games that much. But again…