So that would imply that people who actually must exercise for their job (construction workers) would have smarter children, on average? And how would that be measured if the child gets stuck in a poorly performing school and no real academic challenges?
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#22Most people don't exercise because no one is paying them to exercise. If a government wants healthy people, they should pay up $100 per hour to just exercise. I think this is the conspiracy of rich people to make poor people fat so that they get sick and rich people sell medicines, fast food, and garcinia combogia, gym membership (which is just another name for drugs like cocaine, meth etc.... but licensed and regula…
Most people don't exercise because they can't be bothered to. They think that they need energy before they can exercise, when it works exactly the other way around.
Maybe for some people. Exercise doesn't give me energy. I do it anyway and find ways to make it enjoyable, but if I'm tired it's a slog.
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#23Correlation implied as causation. Here is another correlation into causation article linking cardiovascular fitness to IQ[0] Another way to look at it can be from the per-capita relation of economic class to fitness[1]. It is entirely possible that, because people higher up the economic ladder are more likely to be fit, and because they are more likely to receive better prenatal care, generally have better nutrition,…
This article is about a study done on mice. Having not read the underlying study, and it not being my field, I can't speak to how well the article articulates the study's findings, but I don't think it's fair to dismiss it with the "correlation does not imply causation" argument.
>t's fair to dismiss it with the "correlation does not imply causation" argument.
In almost every thread for an article of this sort, someone pops in to say "correlation isn't causation", as if people doing research don't understand this concept.
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#24Correlation implied as causation. Here is another correlation into causation article linking cardiovascular fitness to IQ[0] Another way to look at it can be from the per-capita relation of economic class to fitness[1]. It is entirely possible that, because people higher up the economic ladder are more likely to be fit, and because they are more likely to receive better prenatal care, generally have better nutrition,…
Actually, it is not correlation implied as causation.
See https://www.cell.com/cell-reports/fulltext/S2211-1247(18)304...
"Highlights
•Exercising male mice pass a cognitive benefit to their offspring
•This phenomenon is mediated by altered expression of sperm RNA
•Levels of miR212/132 in sperm play a key role in this intergenerational effect"
This appears to be causation implied as causation.
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#25Actual title: "Do Fathers Who Exercise Have Smarter Babies?" To further quote the article: “My personal opinion is that exercise is probably much more important” than mental stimulation for altering brains and gene expression and potentially even the aptitudes of one’s offspring, Dr. Fischer says. If the author of the article specifically phrased it as a question, let's not jump to making a definitive statement by ch…
> If the author of the article specifically phrased it as a question [...]
Small but important correction: authors typically don't get to specifically phrase the title of their article, that is usually controlled by the editor (or some clickbait-optimizing a/b testing algorithm to maximize revenue).
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#26So that would imply that people who actually must exercise for their job (construction workers) would have smarter children, on average? And how would that be measured if the child gets stuck in a poorly performing school and no real academic challenges?
Not smarter in absolute sense, just smarter than they would be without exercise, I suppose.
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#28Makes me wonder how sperm motility correlates with offspring IQ.
And could an improved selection for higher sperm motility (e.g. by giving sperm some extra challenge before they reach the ovum), lead to higher IQ or some other beneficial trait?
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most people don't exercise because they can't be bothered to. They think that they need energy before they can exercise, when it works exactly the other way around.
Maybe for some people. Exercise doesn't give me energy. I do it anyway and find ways to make it enjoyable, but if I'm tired it's a slog.
Most people exercise, most people don't play - there is a difference. Watch kids play, they are still exercising but having fun. Pick up a playful form of exercise. Mountain biking, skateboarding, BMX etc... Do it just to have fun, you will see a difference - more energy.
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#30Correlation implied as causation. Here is another correlation into causation article linking cardiovascular fitness to IQ[0] Another way to look at it can be from the per-capita relation of economic class to fitness[1]. It is entirely possible that, because people higher up the economic ladder are more likely to be fit, and because they are more likely to receive better prenatal care, generally have better nutrition,…
This article is about a study done on mice. Having not read the underlying study, and it not being my field, I can't speak to how well the article articulates the study's findings, but I don't think it's fair to dismiss it with the "correlation does not imply causation" argument.
> on mice
And the article automatically relates it to humans, when absolutely no study has been done. Correlation to causation.