Is going vegan actually helping battle climate change?
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Re: Is going vegan actually helping battle climate change?
#2IMO this is a lot harder than just looking at the current numbers. It is relevant to see the individual differences and impacts as well.
A lot of the commonly sold 'vegan' alternatives from the hipster food section in our super markets are produced by big corps and shipped around the world. A lot of the popular super food here in Europe comes from south America. More and more fruits and vegetables either from Asia or some huge (essentially slave holding) agriculture areas in Spain or Italy.
On the other side I consume Mostly local food. I love to waste time in meat areas to find the single most ecological variation I can buy. Rarely eating beef. Except for pure luxury import stuff (mango, pineapple, nuts) I eat my vegs and fruits seasonal.
If you account for all the transports, cooling, storage of imported super foods it could very well be that the local meat eating approach still is a lot better purely based on your ecological footprint.
Re: Is going vegan actually helping battle climate change?
#3IMO this is a lot harder than just looking at the current numbers. It is relevant to see the individual differences and impacts as well. A lot of the commonly sold 'vegan' alternatives from the hipster food section in our super markets are produced by big corps and shipped around the world. A lot of the popular super food here in Europe comes from south America. More and more fruits and vegetables either from Asia or…
While I agree with you about the complexity of the issue, it doesn't seem fair to compare local meat to imported plants. What about local meat vs local plants? Local plants vs imported meat? Imported meat vs imported plants? By cherry-picking a single one of these combinations, you can make either side look favorable.
Re: Is going vegan actually helping battle climate change?
#4IMO this is a lot harder than just looking at the current numbers. It is relevant to see the individual differences and impacts as well. A lot of the commonly sold 'vegan' alternatives from the hipster food section in our super markets are produced by big corps and shipped around the world. A lot of the popular super food here in Europe comes from south America. More and more fruits and vegetables either from Asia or…
The article does say less beef, more local fruit and veg.
Also agriculture in Spain/Italy is not based on slavery.
Re: Is going vegan actually helping battle climate change?
#5IMO this is a lot harder than just looking at the current numbers. It is relevant to see the individual differences and impacts as well. A lot of the commonly sold 'vegan' alternatives from the hipster food section in our super markets are produced by big corps and shipped around the world. A lot of the popular super food here in Europe comes from south America. More and more fruits and vegetables either from Asia or…
The article does say less beef, more local fruit and veg. Also agriculture in Spain/Italy is not based on slavery.
I think some people may disagree with you there: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/oct/24/t...
Re: Is going vegan actually helping battle climate change?
#6IMO this is a lot harder than just looking at the current numbers. It is relevant to see the individual differences and impacts as well. A lot of the commonly sold 'vegan' alternatives from the hipster food section in our super markets are produced by big corps and shipped around the world. A lot of the popular super food here in Europe comes from south America. More and more fruits and vegetables either from Asia or…
This is why we need carbon taxes. Instead of having to do hours of research for each item you buy, the environmental impact would be baked into the price.
Re: Is going vegan actually helping battle climate change?
#7IMO this is a lot harder than just looking at the current numbers. It is relevant to see the individual differences and impacts as well. A lot of the commonly sold 'vegan' alternatives from the hipster food section in our super markets are produced by big corps and shipped around the world. A lot of the popular super food here in Europe comes from south America. More and more fruits and vegetables either from Asia or…
The article does say less beef, more local fruit and veg. Also agriculture in Spain/Italy is not based on slavery.
Not entirely. But to a scarely high degree.
Ex. https://www.ecowatch.com/europes-dirty-little-secret-morocca...
Re: Is going vegan actually helping battle climate change?
#8IMO this is a lot harder than just looking at the current numbers. It is relevant to see the individual differences and impacts as well. A lot of the commonly sold 'vegan' alternatives from the hipster food section in our super markets are produced by big corps and shipped around the world. A lot of the popular super food here in Europe comes from south America. More and more fruits and vegetables either from Asia or…
While I agree with you about the complexity of the issue, it doesn't seem fair to compare local meat to imported plants. What about local meat vs local plants? Local plants vs imported meat? Imported meat vs imported plants? By cherry-picking a single one of these combinations, you can make either side look favorable.
That is true. However to have a healthy diet as vegan you very likely pick a lot of imported food (at least here in Europe, even more in winters).
Not saying this is true for anyone, but for basically all vegans I know it is.
My general Point is that the 'historical' local diet may still is the most favorable due to its locality.
Re: Is going vegan actually helping battle climate change?
#9I like scientific studies about this, but this won't make meat eaters change their mind. Instead, they will feel attacked. Convince them with cool things, not science.
Re: Is going vegan actually helping battle climate change?
#10There's a story on the front page right now about how sea weed reduces methane from cows.