I switched to arch linux a couple of weeks ago after being an ubuntu user for 8 years. After installing gnome3 I see not much difference between arch linux and Ubuntu. Sure, maintaining packages is quite different (and better) in arch linux than Ubuntu. I guess I was always a fan of desktop managers and not quite concerned about the distro.
Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better
#22Unity was never the main reason people chose to use Ubuntu -- it was always (well, from when I first heard about it until I lost interest (5 years ago)) the claim that Ubuntu is easier to install than Debian.
I never understood the fixation about ease of installing, as that's something I either did once every few years on custom hardware, or had automated already using a CFM. For stuff I installed manually (laptops, occasional desktop rebuilds) partitioning was always the thing that gave me the most pause - and a graphical installer vs text installer didn't really impact that process. Picking a new hostname wasn't any easier with a GUI than a text interface either.
The common claim was that Ubuntu had have better X, init (upstart), installer, and maybe some more recent exotic drivers -- but I was hard-pressed to identify the differentiating factors from Debian testing (what most of my friends & family were on, at my behest).
Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better
#23I've been skipping all the Unity drama by staying on Xubuntu which is really snappy and stays out of your way.
Also, Gnome on this laptop (Dell Inspiron 15 7000) gave me (and several others users, as per forum post https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2358975 and some bug reports I found on the internet) a freeze or stutter every 10 or so seconds. So instead of having to start debugging shit from a fresh Linux install like I used to do in early 199x linux days, I chose to install xubuntu and just get to work and be productive.
Try XFCE today, really (and install all gnome apps should you need to run something from that desktop environment: they integrate great with xfce).
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better
#24I'm on Ubuntu 18.04 (upgraded from 16.04) and I'm still using Unity. Technically Unity is not gone, but it's no longer a default, Gnome is. I've tried Gnome and was very disappointed. No global menu integration which means losing useful screen space for no good reason. Tray icons somehow look squished and ragged. No fractional scaling is a massive issue for me since I'm working with dual 27 inch 4K displays. Tray bar…
I'm with you. Maybe it's just that I'm familiar with Unity but GNOME feels like a step back in almost every aspect. On the other hand you can just install KDE Plasma that went a long way and works fine if you just stick to the UI - all your pain points should work out of the box or can be configured using systemsettings. KDE applications are a mixed bag - I love dolphin but kmail and other stuff feels strange. Also p…
Yes, I was shocked how good Kubuntu is. Gnome looks nice but the lack of configurability is a show stopper for many power users.
Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better
#25Since 20+ years ago I used decent window managers that let me have a 2x2 workspace. VERY simple to use. Moving the mouse works within a workspace and the same way across workspaces (mouse off any edge). Moving windows worked within workspaces (click, drag, drop) same as across workspaces (click, drag, drop). Basically the principal of least surprise. Moving the mouse and clicking shouldn't have special rules across w…
Does workspace grid [1] work on 18.04? Not sure how to get wrapping, though.
[1] https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/484/workspace-grid/
Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better
#26Is there an easy way to remove systemd yet?
Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better
#27I'm on Ubuntu 18.04 (upgraded from 16.04) and I'm still using Unity. Technically Unity is not gone, but it's no longer a default, Gnome is. I've tried Gnome and was very disappointed. No global menu integration which means losing useful screen space for no good reason. Tray icons somehow look squished and ragged. No fractional scaling is a massive issue for me since I'm working with dual 27 inch 4K displays. Tray bar…
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better
#28Unity was one of the reasons I switched away from Ubuntu. It may be time to try Ubuntu again :D
> It may be time to try Ubuntu again.
It may be time to try/support Debian GNU/Linux again.
Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better
#29Gnome just never seems right. Unity is way more polished. Which is a shame. I initially supported gnome over unity when Ubuntu released it. But, once you get used to the polished feel, its not something you want to do with out. Gnome currently STILL feels like a step or 2 backwards.
Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better
#30Looks quite nice!