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Uber’s Flying Taxi

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Re: Uber’s Flying Taxi

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The V-22 also known as the "elevator of death" [1] [1] https://medium.com/war-is-boring/your-periodic-reminder-that...

Worth noting that after the initial problems the V-22 turned into the safest rotorcraft that the marines have to offer.

[1] http://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/v-22-is-the-safest-most-su...

Re: Uber’s Flying Taxi

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> Use that expertise to build a tilt-rotor commercial plane. They have, it's called the AW609. And like its predecessor V-22, it has crashed and killed the occupants early on and is nowhere near commercial readiness. Uber's estimates of commercial VTOL flight on an untested airframe by 2023 is total garbage, and they have to know it. The US military has sunk $50 Billion dollars into this problem over the last 30 year…

Bell is also currently working on the V-280 Valor which is more of a direct successor to the V-22.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_V-280_Valor

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> Use that expertise to build a tilt-rotor commercial plane. They have, it's called the AW609. And like its predecessor V-22, it has crashed and killed the occupants early on and is nowhere near commercial readiness. Uber's estimates of commercial VTOL flight on an untested airframe by 2023 is total garbage, and they have to know it. The US military has sunk $50 Billion dollars into this problem over the last 30 year…

Came here to say exactly this. I'd add that of the non-aerospace tech companies that have tried to build planes, I'm not aware of any that have launched commercially and I can only think of one that has ever flown. Turns out that building commercial aircraft is still hard.

making flying things is easy these days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQK9m_OBVgY

>The US military has sunk $50 Billion dollars into this problem over the last 30 years and still aren't there.

Bell X22 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arXpHn9DPYo ) was technically pretty successful from the start. The only disadvantage vs. V-22 is the speed - that speed though comes at the cost of lesser stability and safety and higher complexity of V-22. For commercial application the priorities would be different, and thus i think the multirotor, being more easy to develop, would come cheaper and sooner than that while any commercialization of V-22 is doomed from the start.

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> A private pilot’s license takes a minimum of 40 hours of flying time

Wow, you can get a pilot's license that quick? In Germany you need 30h of driving just to get a regular car license. No large trailer or truck.

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> Use that expertise to build a tilt-rotor commercial plane. They have, it's called the AW609. And like its predecessor V-22, it has crashed and killed the occupants early on and is nowhere near commercial readiness. Uber's estimates of commercial VTOL flight on an untested airframe by 2023 is total garbage, and they have to know it. The US military has sunk $50 Billion dollars into this problem over the last 30 year…

> My guess is that Uber simply wants to maintain some hope of future growth, particularly with their autonomous car program in shambles. They also benefit from future free advertising. Everytime you'll see a bit of news talking about autonomous drones, flying taxis, or the like, you can bet that the writer will mention Uber, thus giving them free Brand recognition. The same happened with Amazon's delivery drones, or…

I missread that as "self driving crabs" and now I want to see that. :-)

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> A private pilot’s license takes a minimum of 40 hours of flying time Wow, you can get a pilot's license that quick? In Germany you need 30h of driving just to get a regular car license. No large trailer or truck.

You still need to spend a lot of time in theory, and especially in Germany you need your radio certificates in English and German (which themselves take a long time).

After that, you can only fly a very limited subset of aircraft during the day under a certain altitude (and possibly certain weather conditions?). If you want to fly at night you need to get a certification for instrument flying.

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"[Uber's] electrically powered [concept aircraft] with two rotors for vertical flight and one for horizontal flight [...] is reminiscent of the V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor, where the propellers transition from vertical flight to horizontal – the difference being Uber’s rotors are fixed."

Whut the funk??!? How is this in any way similar??? Uh, correct me if I don't see something, but to me this is like saying something like: "Tesla Model 3 is similar to the Caterpillar CS-533E drum roller [1] — the difference being Tesla has 4 wheels"...

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caterpillar_CS-533E

I'm in no way an aircraft person, but if I were to try to look for similarities to something, the following are more like what I'd think of:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrodyne

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autogyro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Came here to say exactly this. I'd add that of the non-aerospace tech companies that have tried to build planes, I'm not aware of any that have launched commercially and I can only think of one that has ever flown. Turns out that building commercial aircraft is still hard.

making flying things is easy these days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQK9m_OBVgY >The US military has sunk $50 Billion dollars into this problem over the last 30 years and still aren't there. Bell X22 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arXpHn9DPYo ) was technically pretty successful from the start. The only disadvantage vs. V-22 is the speed - that speed though comes at the cost of lesser stability and safety and h…

The X-22 was in no way more stable or safer than the V-22 it had just as much problems at start and unlike the V-22 which was based on the XV-3 and XV-15 those problems were not mainly in manufacturing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_XV-3

Re: Uber’s Flying Taxi

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"[Uber's] electrically powered [concept aircraft] with two rotors for vertical flight and one for horizontal flight [...] is reminiscent of the V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor, where the propellers transition from vertical flight to horizontal – the difference being Uber’s rotors are fixed." Whut the funk ??!? How is this in any way similar??? Uh, correct me if I don't see something, but to me this is like saying something li…

Similar in the sense that they have the same manufacturer I guess so there might be some shared tech. But other than that I agree with you, the Osprey is a tiltrotor aircraft whereas the Uber aircraft is not. Like you say it's more of an Autogyro.
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