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Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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Re: Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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What makes you think this won't be used by people of all classes? And did you hear the recordings? The AI is better at conversation than the humans it had to deal with. I would gladly use this to avoid talking to people who can't parse a plain sentence without rounds of repetition and clarification.

AI tools, including Google's Duplex, will benefit the bottom ~90% of the planet radically more than it will benefit the wealthy. That has been true of nearly all technology from the past few hundred years at least. The wealthy will largely continue employing humans to do tasks for them, because they can. It will be just another form of luxury / status. An AI assistant will be considered beneath their class. The techn…

The wealthy will stop employing humans to do tasks for them the second that AI can do those tasks better, or with less effort.

Then a few seconds after that the Singularity starts.

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Now I'm wondering what could be code-words to signal that they're AI and go into modem-mode... "Hi there, I'd like to schedule an appointment" "Are you suuuure?" SCCREEECH KSHHH ...

they could just encode the message in a way that’s inaudible to humans. So a simple “hello” contains a subliminal audio signature that basically is code for “I am a robot. Are you a robot? Feel free to beep bop”

Machine A extends the "hellooo" out to exactly 1.32 seconds, with a 1.32 second pause between that and the next word.

Machine B responds with a greeting exactly 1.32 seconds long, with a 1.32 second pause after it.

Machine A responds with a sentence in which the first word is exactly 1.32 seconds long.

Machine B considers the handshake a success and proceeds in machine language.

Re: Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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> Yes, duplex is for completing specific tasks, but how much of a difference is there between "Duplex, book a table for four at 8pm" and "Duplex, ask my victim about how their day was"? The former (booking a table) is much more "constrained", as in the conversation would most likely not go into much of a tangent, because there are only so many responses to a statement like "book a table for four at 8pm" (8pm is full,…

And you think this is the end of innovation, this is it, no improvements from here? Duplex is interacting with a human and that person has no idea its a computer on the other end. Yes, Duplex is limited as it stands, but what is there to make you think something as described in grandparent post won't exist in ten years?

This is what existed 50 years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHRDLU#Excerpt

In terms of NLP, the Duplex seems hardly that much of a jump. The main improvements seem to be on the speech part.

Re: Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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There's a great Black Mirror episode in here somewhere. Imagine five years from now, this tech and Google's Smart Reply ( https://blog.google/products/gmail/save-time-with-smart-repl... ) have evolved to the point where they can basically write entire email responses or have whole conversations without your input. You could develop elaborate friendships where both parties are just having their AIs converse and aren't…

> Imagine five years from now, this tech and Google's Smart Reply have evolved to the point where they can basically write entire email responses or have whole conversations without your input.

Ahum. Did you watch the keynote?

"An extension of Gmail’s Smart Reply feature, Smart Compose will suggest complete sentences within the body of an email as you are writing." [0]

[0] https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/8/17331960/google-smart-comp...

Re: Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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This is really horrifying to me. My heart goes out to the working-class retail people who are going to have to spend their days chatting with the AI assistants of upper middle class people too busy to call themselves. If the shop owner gets a duplex system to field the calls, then the two robots can subtly signal to the other they aren't actually human, and then start shrieking like a 9600 baud modem to finish the di…

For me, the money quote is: > Duplex can only carry out natural conversations after being deeply trained in such domains. The question becomes - How many people will really have the time and money to actually collect data to allow Duplex to take over. It might be true for large call centers but difficult at individual level.

Every call center in the world is now looking to sell their recordings.

Re: Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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The people losing their marbles over this being some kind of Turing Test passing distopian stuff are missing the point at how limited this domain is. People who answer phones to take bookings perform an extremely limited set of questions and responses, that’s why they can even be replaced by dumb voice response systems in many cases. In these cases, the human being answering the phone is themselves acting like a bot…

You have to see it in use too. The Milo demo from Microsoft was much more impressive, but completely fake.

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This is amazing, but one thing I don't really understand is this: earlier in the presentation, they demoed some new Google Assistant voices. All of them sound like standard computer-synthesized assistants. On the other hand, the synthesized Duplex voices sound indistinguishable from human speech to me, even without the "disfluencies" they include. If Google has gotten speech synthesis to this point, why isn't Assista…

This is simply because Google Duplex's TTS engine is using Tacotron and WaveNet which are not ready for general use yet .

WaveNet is already used in the Assistant and Google Translate at least. The new voices they announced are powered by WaveNet.

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I think it's unethical for a robocaller to incorporate things like "ums" and "ahs" intentionally to deceive people into thinking they're talking to a human. At least, it's disrespectful.

I disagree; ums and ahs are just part of the protocol of voice communication, hence robots should use them. I think it should just introduce itself as a robot.

Re: Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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Maybe it'll motivate more businesses to put more of their transactional things online where the bot can do it without bothering a real human, and real humans who don't want to use this can also avoid spending more time on the phone than they have to. Honestly, the degree to which telephone calls are still necessary in day to day life is absurd. If this hastens their demise then I'm all for it.

Phone calls are necessary for anything that needs flexibility. Coding flexibility in a website is incredibly hard. Think about it. A restaurant doesn't have anything veggie on the menu, a last minute guest arrives and is veggie. You call to ask if there is something that can be done. It's possible to code that, but it's a lot of work to get all the scenarios right.

Yes! Voice/conversations leads to a fundamentally different UX.

Re: Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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I think it's unethical for a robocaller to incorporate things like "ums" and "ahs" intentionally to deceive people into thinking they're talking to a human. At least, it's disrespectful.

I agree with that. I think it's time for us, the tech industry, to start thinking about the ethical implications of the things we build before we release them. To make this salient for people: imagine this technology being deployed for political robocalls. An attractive voice masquerading as a person persuading people to vote for someone.

To make this salient for people: imagine this technology being deployed for political robocalls. An attractive voice masquerading as a person persuading people to vote for someone.

They already hire telemarketing centers to do political calls; is this really so different?

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