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Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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Re: Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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I do feel for them, but at the same time we have these unintentional designs and systems that cause a lot of suffering all over the place. For example, I was kept on hold for 2 hours the other day to try and sort out being double charged on my bankcard. If this sort of service can handle hold, then i'm in.

I'm sure this system can and will be used to handle you on hold. ;) Be prepared for obfuscating phone trees that can talk back.

Precisely, the implications of this are just AIs getting stuck in a recursive loop or getting into a battle of training to best the other.

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post #262

Sigh, guess it won't be long before we're all asked to jump through some ludicrous human challenge to confirm we are not a robot every time we call someone

I wonder how voice captchas will work. This is inevitable. :)

What's wrong with Wolfie? (Terminator 2). Hopefully the AI won't be quite like that for a while. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT_u9Rurrqg&amp=&feature=you...

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This is really horrifying to me. My heart goes out to the working-class retail people who are going to have to spend their days chatting with the AI assistants of upper middle class people too busy to call themselves. If the shop owner gets a duplex system to field the calls, then the two robots can subtly signal to the other they aren't actually human, and then start shrieking like a 9600 baud modem to finish the di…

The working class people will be replaced by AI

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The people losing their marbles over this being some kind of Turing Test passing distopian stuff are missing the point at how limited this domain is. People who answer phones to take bookings perform an extremely limited set of questions and responses, that’s why they can even be replaced by dumb voice response systems in many cases. In these cases, the human being answering the phone is themselves acting like a bot…

The problem is that computers will now be interacting with people and people will become unsure of whether they are taking to a computer or a person. It will create a bewildering world full of mistrust. I would argue that there should be a law proclaiming that computers must identify themselves.

What happens then if I'm a human that masquerades as a computer? Seems like a neat way of explaining away a number of social faux pas or drunk-dialling. "Me? Noooo... that must have been my PhoneBot 2000. Supposedly the next firmware update should solve that kind of problem."

That said, I don't necessarily disagree; there is going to need to be lots of these kind of issues that need sorting out before we reach a Culture-level of AI interaction.

Re: Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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The problem is that computers will now be interacting with people and people will become unsure of whether they are taking to a computer or a person. It will create a bewildering world full of mistrust. I would argue that there should be a law proclaiming that computers must identify themselves.

If we accept your premise that bots become so close to humans that they are virtually indistinguishable, then at that point does it matter who the "person" on the other end of the line is? I'd argue it doesn't because the outcome would be the same.

I think there will always be a difference. When I'm talking to someone, there's an emotional connection and responsiveness there. I'm trying to help a human out -- I'm putting effort into being polite, into considering their point of view etc.

If I found out that they were a robot (this is probably unpreventable; even if the technology gets amazing, surely there will be edge-case breakdowns/bugs/etc.), my trust is broken. That would have an emotional consequence e.g. frustration.

There will always be amazing technology wielded by awful developers, and in this case the outcome is emotionally hazardous. The impact of that is not easy to quantify e.g. by any economic indicators, but it's there.

Also, it's likely that robots will not be as polite back, so we're degrading society's trust and empathy all around. For example, Google's AI call to a restaurant was rude, and not for reasons it seems to yet understand.

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I'm sure this system can and will be used to handle you on hold. ;) Be prepared for obfuscating phone trees that can talk back.

Precisely, the implications of this are just AIs getting stuck in a recursive loop or getting into a battle of training to best the other.

fine by me if it uses tail recursion.

would be funny if it didn't and somehow blew the phone system's stack.

Re: Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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Lol imagine my phone talking with an automated customer service line. Two machines, talking to one another, not using any of the existing protocols. My phone would have a database of questions to ask, form it into an English sentence, run it through a text-to-speech, transmit this to the other phone. Their "phone" would run a speech-to-text, run NLP, match it with its own database, and do the whole thing again in the…

Potentially there would be a way for both sides to recognize that the other side is a machine and they could switch to binary communication.

Binary communication isn't useful by itself. You need a compatible protocol and API.

I can give you 010101010101101011111 to a machine all I want, if they don't know how it's formatted, it's useless.

Conversational English is a format.

Re: Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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There is something about this that is just a bit unpalatable. Like getting businesses to define their products and services in a common computer-usable format and interface is such an insurmountable problem that we rather build million-to-billion dollar super computers so we can skirt the problem and regress back to the lowest common dominator of communication -the spoken word.
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