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Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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Re: Google Duplex: An AI System for Accomplishing Real World Tasks Over the Phone

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This is really horrifying to me. My heart goes out to the working-class retail people who are going to have to spend their days chatting with the AI assistants of upper middle class people too busy to call themselves.

If the shop owner gets a duplex system to field the calls, then the two robots can subtly signal to the other they aren't actually human, and then start shrieking like a 9600 baud modem to finish the dialog.

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> The system also sounds more natural thanks to the incorporation of speech disfluencies (e.g. “hmm”s and “uh”s). These are added when combining widely differing sound units in the concatenative TTS or adding synthetic waits, which allows the system to signal in a natural way that it is still processing. (This is what people often do when they are gathering their thoughts.) In user studies, we found that conversation…

Google maps has the most pleasant and human sounding voice approach I’ve encountered in any such system. All other gps guidance voices sound incredibly crude and mechanical in comparison.

The Brazilian Portuguese voice is not that great.

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Please go and convince the mom and pop hardware store or bakery in your town to use an API instead of answering the phone.

They’ll do that before getting a robot to answer the phone for them.

Why do you say that?

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> Google can scale out your requests, one to N. For example, 'Make me a reservation at a 4 star restaurant next Friday.' Google can immediately initiate calls against 15 restaurants and let you pick from the successes, then automatically cancel the reservations for the places you did not choose. This sounds like a nightmare for businesses. This time commitment asymmetry will be the issue with these systems. Like emai…

> If people use it to flake a lot, I could see businesses just not responding to the assistant. Or being forced to use for Google's small business version of Duplex to handle the increased call load (for a small fee of course).

Or just set up an online booking system.

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> The end game would be for the business to run something like duplex on the other side, and you’d have duplex talking to duplex. And looking even further into the future, we can imagine a day when the computers forgo natural speech and use a better-suited form of communication. Some kind of sequence of ones and zeros transmitted directly across the wire.

Lol, but if you think about it, what stops businesses from doing this today? It's the lack of a universal API. If a barber shop wants to make it possible for a 3rd party app to book appointments then they have to release some API. But that's not the end of it. The 3rd party app has to first discover their Api, someone has to understand it and write code to use it, and then deploy that code. This is a problem today be…

> The 3rd party app has to first discover their API, someone has to understand it and write code to use it, and then deploy that code.

I think this would be a better integration point for AI. It could look at the fields and learn to fill them out automatically (name, age) and prompt the user for anything missing. Then instead of the barber shop needing a universal AI users just need their personal AI (or a script) to interact with the API.

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post #310

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> The end game would be for the business to run something like duplex on the other side, and you’d have duplex talking to duplex. And looking even further into the future, we can imagine a day when the computers forgo natural speech and use a better-suited form of communication. Some kind of sequence of ones and zeros transmitted directly across the wire.

Lol, but if you think about it, what stops businesses from doing this today? It's the lack of a universal API. If a barber shop wants to make it possible for a 3rd party app to book appointments then they have to release some API. But that's not the end of it. The 3rd party app has to first discover their Api, someone has to understand it and write code to use it, and then deploy that code. This is a problem today be…

Re businesses doing this today: I believe WeChat handles this very well in China.

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The technology is really awesome but I'm not convinced it will fly: * How much time do people really save, the call in the example is less than a minute. Maybe if you need to call like 10 places it becomes more helpful, but as companies get a bigger online presence (and they are) this technology becomes less useful. You can already make reservations/book appointments, find contracts pretty easily online. * You can't…

I have a deaf friend who would love this feature. Sure, a lot of stuff like this can be handled online now, but not 100%. Sometimes you really need to make a phone call, and for some people that's difficult.

Assuming they're in the US, your deaf friend can use a free relay service. There are a bunch of variations, some that allow signing to an operator, others typing. All are free, and as accessible as this google bot.

(I assume your friend knows about these services, this is an FYI others.)

https://www.verywell.com/internet-relay-services-1046808#typ...

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This is going to be awesome/terrible for social engineering attacks. We'll be training millions of people to to trust phone calls from "Google". But are you talking to Google-calling-on-behalf-of-your-boss, or Google-calling-on-behalf-of-some-phisher? Or better yet, some custom system that pretends to be Google over the phone? Who knows!

Sounds like we'll have to start solving voice captchas just to call businesses.

Has anybody found a way/hack to bypass Recaptcha ?

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It's not a new thing. A famous tax preparation software introduced a "compute" screen that took a few seconds to make people more comfortable with the results even if the computation itself is instantaneous.

It's really just an audio version of a loading bar or spinner - users get really uncomfortable if the UI becomes unresponsive for even a few hundred milliseconds, but they'll wait for several seconds if it looks like something is happening. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_noise

The "please wait while we verify your passcode" on our corporate phone conference system drives me nuts. In the time that it took to speak that sentence, the passcode could have been verified millions of times.
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