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Posting on the phone! I have just upgraded and the update is absolutely flawless and can be considered as a dail
And the only flaw is it cuts off in the middle of messages if you try to type "daily driver"?
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this applies only to installed apps from the store, not system apps like googles or oem apps. you cant disable background activity of any apps. dont want an always listening ai helper from google? too bad for you.
Just don't use them. Unlike in iOS, you can replace all those apps with other apps that you prefer. No rooting or jailbreaking required. If you don't like Google Assistant, you can use Alexa or Cortana or something entirely different. If you don't like Siri on iOS, tough luck. https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/7/17328758/amazon-alexa-defa...
I can’t even disable this Google bloatware on a stock phone (Nexus 5X)
Re: Android P
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No, none of those were AOSP devices either. They all included Android Market and Gmail, as the most obvious examples. The platform remains entirely open. That's how Chinese people are able to use Android even though Google does not do business there. You confuse the platform with the apps and services that run on it.
> The platform remains entirely open. That’d be an argument, if Google removed all of those APIs that were in AOSP and forced people to use their proprietary solutions. If you want to do WiFi Geolocation, you now need to use Google Play Services. If you want to use shared library of openssl, you now need to use Google Play Services. If you want to use background notifications, you now need to use Google Play Services…
This was always using Google's proprietary data, even in the G1 days. They split it out into Play Services, so Chinese phones using another provider would be possible.
> If you want to use background notifications, you now need to use Google Play Services.
Background notifications weren't even possible on the G1 when it launched. When background notifications were first made available, they used a Google service and were never part of AOSP for that reason. Chinese phones use other push services inside the firewall.
> If you want to use shared library of openssl, you now need to use Google Play Services.
This is because Google now updates that library for security. If someone else updates the shared library (because you're in China, for example), you can call that version. Or you can just bundle the library in your app.
> By now you can’t access the stepcounter, or movement data.
None of those existed on the G1 and are simply sensor fusion implementations on the open sensor APIs.
> Hell, you can’t even use the latest OpenGL without proprietary libraries.
Yes, you can. https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/graphics/opengl
You need to understand the difference between the platform and the services that Google provides on top of it.
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And I'm not mad at all. I'm glad that both iOS and Android are implementing one of WebOS' best feature. Using the Android P beta now and it seems to be most of the way there.
It's the worst part of Android P, and I'll patch AOSP to get rid of it for my devices. If I open a task switcher, I want to see a lot of my open tasks. Not one, not three, not even four, but dozens. How long am I supposed to be swiping if there's hundreds of open tasks? And scrolling with the home button is even worse. Let's hope Android Q quickly gets rid of this again.
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#126This looks awful. I've come to realize that any feature with "smart" anywhere in the name, is something I want disabled. Smart quotes? Only exist to fuck up copypasta code and SQL statements. Smart spell check? There's a field of internet hilarity about how bad this is. Smart restore? Best way to lose my data and fuck up my install. Smart assistant? I've yet to meet even one person who uses GAssistant/Siri/Cortana fo…
Re: Android P
#127Boy, the gesture based task switcher sure looks familar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2tkX_zJp-8
Re: Android P
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Just don't use them. Unlike in iOS, you can replace all those apps with other apps that you prefer. No rooting or jailbreaking required. If you don't like Google Assistant, you can use Alexa or Cortana or something entirely different. If you don't like Siri on iOS, tough luck. https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/7/17328758/amazon-alexa-defa...
Could you please tell me how I am supposed to disable this app? https://i.k8r.eu/q-NmHw Or this? https://i.k8r.eu/3K7idw I can’t even disable this Google bloatware on a stock phone (Nexus 5X)
Also, you've once again conflated "stock" with Google phone. If you use more precise terminology, you won't be so confused.
Re: Android P
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Location tracking requires specific permission from the user, not as part of installation. I think you're a bit out of date. https://developer.android.com/distribute/best-practices/deve...
And this is a perfect example of the bait-and-switch: Location now goes through Google's location services, so you're not saying "FindMyKeysApp may use my GPS location", you're saying "FindMyKeysApp AND GOOGLE may use my GPS location." For most apps (unless I'm wrong?) there's no way to let the app use my location without it going through Google's location services and sending data back to the Borg Cube.
presto - no google - only actual GPS signals used. But good luck - you'll see just how terrible GPS is indoors and in urban canyons. Without wifi and BLE augmentation it truly sucks.
Re: Android P
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Because the SoC is supported.
Then Google is free to give me an alternative device for development. With the emulator broken, and the Nexus 5X unsupported, I am unable to assure that my apps work on Android P, and therefore I have no idea at all if they’ll crash or not. But if they’ll crash, Google will punish me by downranking my score. A punishment for something I can’t do shit about. It’s absolute madness.
Except it's not? Not even remotely true anymore. Starts up instantly now even, they just showed that off. And if you're opposed to Intel HAXM you can now use Hyper-V https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2018/05/08/hyp...