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How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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Not so surprising after Google's recent pricing changes. They reduced the free tier by an order of magnitude and 10xed prices. Google maps is no longer good for hobby projects as the free tier is so low. It's like they're trying to drive away everybody but but big enterprise shops.

> Not so surprising after Google's recent pricing changes.

Didn't that happen just a week or so ago? I don't think this can be attributed to the pricing change this early.

Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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post #9

Not so surprising after Google's recent pricing changes. They reduced the free tier by an order of magnitude and 10xed prices. Google maps is no longer good for hobby projects as the free tier is so low. It's like they're trying to drive away everybody but but big enterprise shops.

That's probably a good business strategy for the future of Maps. The fewer clients you have, the more focused you can be in terms of product development and pricing. This is true in many businesses, actually.

It's risky to leave customers out that will feed your competition.

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Not so surprising after Google's recent pricing changes. They reduced the free tier by an order of magnitude and 10xed prices. Google maps is no longer good for hobby projects as the free tier is so low. It's like they're trying to drive away everybody but but big enterprise shops.

It depends on your hobby project. Google's free tier gives unlimited map views, commercial or not. (Edit: On native apps.)

Mapbox's free tier only gives 50k map views, and only for non-commercial apps. If you're a paid app, you also have to pay $499 per month on top of your usage.

Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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Last I checked, MapBox's WebGL based vector tile renderer was a cut above the rest. For simple mapping, Google's stuff may cut it, but MapBox has the ability to draw complex vector polygons over a wide area that render/zoom/scroll fast and provide a nice experience. This is pretty important if you want to provide fine grained analysis of geographic areas.

If you wanted this on GMaps, you were stuck rendering all your vectors to image tiles, hugely increasing the size. MapBox's vector support made this very easy! It may be that Google/free options have caught up in this space, but I haven't re-evaluated in a few years.

I think MapBox could also be a winner in the GIS space as the GIS options have not made the most graceful move to the web.

Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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Surprising to see competition in a space that is so dominated by Google. I hoped it’d be some open source endeavor, but seeing the link was Forbes I shouldn’t have gotten my hopes up... that said competition and options is good!

A huge amount of Mapbox's tech is open source, including the entirety of their WebGL rendering engine. They rely heavily on OpenStreetMap, which is all open data.

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I have no evidence to support it, but this article feels like bought and paid for PR.

All media is bought and paid for PR. The only question is who's paying for it and why. That's not necessarily a bad thing, either. It's just the way it is.

Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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Surprising to see competition in a space that is so dominated by Google. I hoped it’d be some open source endeavor, but seeing the link was Forbes I shouldn’t have gotten my hopes up... that said competition and options is good!

Mapzen, a now sadly defunct mapping startup, released all of its software open-source, including WebGL mobile and browser SDKs, map tile rendering, search and routing. Take a look at:

https://github.com/tangrams/

https://github.com/tilezen/

https://github.com/valhalla/

https://github.com/pelias/

(Full disclosure: used to work at Mapzen)

Re: How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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post #12
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's probably a good business strategy for the future of Maps. The fewer clients you have, the more focused you can be in terms of product development and pricing. This is true in many businesses, actually.

It's risky to leave customers out that will feed your competition.

Every business decision carries risk. The question is whether or not the risk is acceptable.

If you don't want to serve any customers making under $10M, then other companies serving those customers are not your competition. At least not today. Is there a risk they might take their broader customer base and use it to compete with you upmarket some day? Yes. But that's why you do things like build a brand, relationships, technologies, and other competitive advantages within your niche.

Fancy steakhouses generally don't worry about McDonald's. (Not that this is a perfect analogy to Google vs MapBox. Just speaking generally here in response to your general point.)

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