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Who controls glibc?

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Re: Who controls glibc?

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Post by rurban »

earenndil wrote: post #245
wyldfire wrote: post #6

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For open source libc? musl, glibc, dietlibc, bionic are the only I know of. The supported targets vary widely among these, though.

There is the freebsd libc; they run their own.

Which is in fact the most used, and arguably technically superior to glibc.

freebsd -> darwin, openbsd, netbsd and dragonfly bsd. openbsd and netbsd like to add their own stuff on top of it also.

The Open Watcom libc and bionic are also superior. bionic is getting better and better recently.

musl is in some parts better, in some parts worse. Same for Embarcadero C++ libc.

Worse than glibc are only: the two MS libc's, msvcrt and ulibc (which is getting on par), the wine libc, newlib (arguably with dietlibc the worst), uClibc, minilibc.

Re: Who controls glibc?

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Post by amyjess »

Sacho wrote: post #354
amyjess wrote: post #172

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> By referring to Facebook users as "Useds", he's trying to belittle anyone who happily uses Facebook by suggesting that they're just a hapless pawn of a megacorp. That is a terrible way to convince someone that they ought to rethink their Facebook use - it just makes anyone currently using Facebook without worry ignore you because you're being condescending to them. Adding to that, if someone persists in calling me…

Just to be clear, this isn't sarcasm? The use of this word caused you to ascribe to him a multitude of opinions that can not be derived from his arguments, which has led you to boycott any project he's been associated with? And Stallman is the unstable one here?

Oh, I've detested everything Stallman stands for for a very long time. But every time he opens his mouth, and calls somebody names for not sharing his views, I want to oppose him just a little bit more actively.

Calling people names is a good way to make enemies, not allies.

Re: Who controls glibc?

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Post by grawprog »

Lol god everyone today just wants the world to be such a dull miserable place where everything must offend nobody. Richard Stallman's a crazy bastard but I agree with him here.

Re: Who controls glibc?

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Post by midasz »

FundThrowaway wrote: post #360

When did HN get so political? In the last couple of months I've noticed an increasing amount of argumentative political discussion. Both sides seem so convinced of their moral superiority, it was somewhat amusing at first but now I'm tired of it. I thought this was one of the last places I could come to get away from it but not anymore.

Everything is politicized now. /r/soccer used to be my favorite place, but since the whole Russia & Qatar appointment - even that place is not safe.

Re: Who controls glibc?

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Post by rayascott »

What's tragic and shocking is that RMS actually believes the joke is now more important than before when asking that the joke not be removed.

"The point of this joke is even more important now than it was when I first wrote it. Please do not remove it."

What's next? GnuJoke?

Re: Who controls glibc?

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Post by SEJeff »

sverige wrote: post #429
wiz21c wrote: post #420

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I think there is no other way to be a dictator (as long as he's appointed byt the board). Now what is a dictator to me ? A dictator is someone you can't disagree with. The dictator may be benevolent or not, may exercise his power or not, but in the end he's the one in power. And you can't disagree with him because you have much less power (he can fire you, he's got the money, he decides on what you work, you're the o…

The Roman office of dictator (which is the origin of the term) was elected with absolute power in order to deal with a crisis -- generally speaking, a major war, and that usually involving an invasion of Roman territory by hostile forces. The term of office was limited to one year, though dictators were sometimes re-elected.

Roman dictator terms were generally either 6 months or until the task they were appointed to complete was finished. The Senate was capable of extending this term or re-electing the dictator depending on the circumstances.

Re: Who controls glibc?

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Post by SEJeff »

rurban wrote: post #311
mikekchar wrote: post #260

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I'm a big fan of RMS, but I've got to say "No". He's not a maintainer. He doesn't get a vote. If he wants to work his way back into that project, then I've got no problem with it. But he doesn't. It's like the CEO telling you that he wants a joke in the technical documentation for one of your libraries. They might get away with it because of their position, but it's an abuse of that position even if the CEO used to b…

He might not be the maintainer, but he is the BDFL. It's about respect. See what happened to Drepper who violated his respect. I like the joke, and I sympathize with RMS to let it in. In any case he opposed it so there is now a power struggle about the control of his project. I would love to see a better maintained glibc btw. Too much politics, not enough competence.

Well see what Drepper did. CTRL-f for "Stallman" in these glibc release notes:

https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-announce/2001/msg00000.html

While I agree with Ulrich, it is pretty brutal.

Re: Who controls glibc?

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Post by irishsultan »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #440
irishsultan wrote: post #426

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That's a different CoC though.

Is it? https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/942 The author of the issue suggests the adoption of a certain Contributor Covenant. Here is the latest version of the text: https://www.contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4/code-of-con... And here is the Node.js CoC: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nodejs/admin/master/CODE_O... Here is the diff: https://www.diffchecker.com/2Lj88IT6 The only substantial difference is locat…

Rust is not Node, so I'm not sure why you're looking at nodes CoC.
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