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Re: Twitter suspended our Open Data project's account and wiped all our followers

#101
What was actually lost? Aren't followers just a number? Did they interact with you in any meaningful way? Did they contribute to the project?

My experience is that even thousands of Twitter followers amount to no real contribution to anything.

Anybody here with a different experience?

Re: Twitter suspended our Open Data project's account and wiped all our followers

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I know of absolutely no people that use Mastadon. There might be a niche somewhere that uses it, but I can’t help to think that it would hurt rather than help any hobby project to choose Mastadon over Twitter.

Firstly, there's no reason to choose only one and not the other. Tweeting on Twitter and tooting on Mastodon can be done with a single command once you've set it up. I'd've thought that was a no brainer. Secondly, I use Mastodon, and I'm on an instance with just over 1000 users. There are over 150K users on the main instance.

> Secondly, I use Mastodon, and I'm on an instance with just over 1000 users. There are over 150K users on the main instance.

For most people I know and follow, that's like, the low bar of twitter follower counts.

Re: Twitter suspended our Open Data project's account and wiped all our followers

#103

I would assume Twitter suspended the account due to the rate of posts. Granted, you are allowed 2400 tweets per day, [1] so the account should not have had any issues.... [1]: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/twitter-limit...

My guess would be the source of posts. Looks like they post from "Twitter for Google TV" and "edent's tweeting robot", so they're probably outliers due to the volume of posts and where the posts are coming from. That combined with the characteristics of the text probably triggered the algorithm. That being said, it's unfortunate that this happened to them, the lack of manual review when kinds of things go wrong is shocking.

Re: Twitter suspended our Open Data project's account and wiped all our followers

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There's a fair bit of criticism for relying too much on Twitter in this thread, but I think the article brings up a good point: >Yes, I know. We should redecentralize and put our content on Mastodon, or the BlockChain, or some other convoluted platform which has no users. But that’s just not practical for a small project. We have limited technical resources and have to go to where the people are. Despite there being…

I'm just happy to see there's an expectation that Mastodon will be acknowledged in a post like this. That's progress!

Re: Twitter suspended our Open Data project's account and wiped all our followers

#105
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Hold on, I've reported multiple extraordinarily obvious spam rings before, with accounts as old as 2013, and I've even kicked up a stink here when Twitter employees show up, and I was told "bots don't violate the TOS." I just checked, it's still there https://mobile.twitter.com/ksfAKBARI check followers/following for a massive ring of obvious spam.

I read a few of the tweets and it's all gibberish. What is the purpose of such a bot? Is the purpose being accomplished?

To inflate some other account's (either spam bot, or someone who buys fake followers) followers and make them look legitimate.

However this particular account is a spam bot as it occasionally tweets financial frauds such as "yes loans any good (link: yes-loans-any-good.txtloanltd.com) yes-loans-any-good.txtloanltd.com #no fax online loans".

Re: Twitter suspended our Open Data project's account and wiped all our followers

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I know of absolutely no people that use Mastadon. There might be a niche somewhere that uses it, but I can’t help to think that it would hurt rather than help any hobby project to choose Mastadon over Twitter.

I used Mastodon for a while, and it was a pretty good experience. I guess I just found it wasn't my crowd; every other person with something interesting to say turned out to be a "demi-girl otherkin fur-friend," or something like that, and while I am happy for people to have a place to do their thing — exercise your liberty, fur-friend! — I came to feel a bit out of place. It seems like its strong secondary focus on…

Similar experience, but I suspect it depends rather on which local instance you join. Unfortunately, while this is some respects a strength (find a likeminded server, have fun) it also adds significant complexity to the UX.

Re: Twitter suspended our Open Data project's account and wiped all our followers

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post #102

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Firstly, there's no reason to choose only one and not the other. Tweeting on Twitter and tooting on Mastodon can be done with a single command once you've set it up. I'd've thought that was a no brainer. Secondly, I use Mastodon, and I'm on an instance with just over 1000 users. There are over 150K users on the main instance.

> Secondly, I use Mastodon, and I'm on an instance with just over 1000 users. There are over 150K users on the main instance. For most people I know and follow, that's like, the low bar of twitter follower counts.

Fortunately it's not related to follower counts. You can follow people from other instances.

Re: Twitter suspended our Open Data project's account and wiped all our followers

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firstly, there's no reason to choose only one and not the other. Tweeting on Twitter and tooting on Mastodon can be done with a single command once you've set it up. I'd've thought that was a no brainer. Secondly, I use Mastodon, and I'm on an instance with just over 1000 users. There are over 150K users on the main instance.

> Secondly, I use Mastodon, and I'm on an instance with just over 1000 users. There are over 150K users on the main instance. For most people I know and follow, that's like, the low bar of twitter follower counts.

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Re: Twitter suspended our Open Data project's account and wiped all our followers

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post #102

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Firstly, there's no reason to choose only one and not the other. Tweeting on Twitter and tooting on Mastodon can be done with a single command once you've set it up. I'd've thought that was a no brainer. Secondly, I use Mastodon, and I'm on an instance with just over 1000 users. There are over 150K users on the main instance.

> Secondly, I use Mastodon, and I'm on an instance with just over 1000 users. There are over 150K users on the main instance. For most people I know and follow, that's like, the low bar of twitter follower counts.

While I acknowledge that numbers are numbers, to some extent, that's not really the point. If you find a Mastodon instance that has a community that's closely matched to your interests, suddenly that's 1K or 10K or 100K of high-quality followers.

And the smaller instances don't suffer the Twitter firehose problem. The instances I use, I watch all the toots, not just those of people I follow. So it's not the number of followers that matters, per se, it's the number of people who see what you say. On Twitter that will only be your followers, but on Mastodon it's pretty much everyone on the instance (for the smaller instances). More, you can be followed by, and have your toots seen by, people on other instances.

But my other point remains - there is no need to be exclusively on one or the other. It's comparatively trivial to put everything on both media.

If you can do that, and you care about your audience (quantity and quality), why wouldn't you?

Re: Twitter suspended our Open Data project's account and wiped all our followers

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I know of absolutely no people that use Mastadon. There might be a niche somewhere that uses it, but I can’t help to think that it would hurt rather than help any hobby project to choose Mastadon over Twitter.

I used Mastodon for a while, and it was a pretty good experience. I guess I just found it wasn't my crowd; every other person with something interesting to say turned out to be a "demi-girl otherkin fur-friend," or something like that, and while I am happy for people to have a place to do their thing — exercise your liberty, fur-friend! — I came to feel a bit out of place. It seems like its strong secondary focus on…

That depends heavily on the instance you choose. There's much, much less of that on the instance I'm (mainly) on.

And if they're saying interesting things, why do you care if they turn out to have a different lifestyle from yours?

Pick a different instance and try again.

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