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The Basic Sourdough

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Re: The Basic Sourdough

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I wouldn't call this "An engineer's guide". It's a lay guide written by a German using metric. If one wants an engineering level of scientific expertise, look at "Advanced Bread and Pastry" by Michel Suas. For example, we grind our own flour, sieving out the bran but including fresh germ, for a spectacular difference in flavor. However, bread flour needs to be aged, or else the loaves will fail to rise properly. Howe…

Scale indeed matters but you can use this to your advantage another way. I use the Lodge Cast Iron Combo Cooker that Robertson recommended in Tartine. The confined space means you need very water to create an appropriate amount of steam. I have found the water coming off the dough as it bakes to be sufficient, but a very small amount of ice can always be tossed in just before covering. The cooker is enclosed so you don't loose steam if you have a gas oven like mine that vents and makes conventional steaming more or less futile. And of course, that mass of cast iron all around the dough pounds radiant heat into the dough like a boss.

I ordered the combo cooker and a cast iron pizza pan from Amazon. This ridiculously heavy parcel shipped free. Life is grand.

Re: The Basic Sourdough

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I've been baking my own dark rye sourdough bread for several years now and I think this guide really overcomplicates things. You can get very good results with minimal effort: I spend about 15 minutes on my bread, and I bake it every 3-4 days. 10 minutes to mix the dough in the morning, and then another 5 minutes to put it in the oven in the evening, for an hour. Put aside some dough before baking, feed it with some…

Rye starter or white flour starter? My favorite rye sourdough is this one from Breadtopia: it goes kind of crazy on flavorings (caraway, anise, fennel, molasses, orange zest) but the results are spectacular. Plus there is a video to take you through it step by step - great for people new to sourdoughs or ryes. Plus plus there is an instant yeast version if you don't have a starter. https://breadtopia.com/sourdough-ry…

Rye starter, but after the first bread the starter is whatever you mixed for the bread, plus feeding every 2-3 days with rye flour.

Here again, keep things simple: don't worry about salt in your starter, as long as you feed it every 2-3 days, the effective salt content will go down and things will be fine.

The current starter I have in my fridge also has sunflower seeds, because that's what I mix into my bread. Who cares?

Again: you can go as complex as you wish with your bread, but the advantage of rye sourdough is that it can be dead simple to make and take very little time, with excellent results. This is what makes it great in my book!

Re: The Basic Sourdough

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I wouldn't call this "An engineer's guide". It's a lay guide written by a German using metric. If one wants an engineering level of scientific expertise, look at "Advanced Bread and Pastry" by Michel Suas. For example, we grind our own flour, sieving out the bran but including fresh germ, for a spectacular difference in flavor. However, bread flour needs to be aged, or else the loaves will fail to rise properly. Howe…

Suas' book looks very interesting. Do you know how Modernist Bread compares?
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