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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to tell Microsoft?

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Don't let Windows Live Mail lose out to GMail. Google is constantly adding and playing with new features for GMail and Microsoft should be doing the same. Eventually Google is going to come up with a real killer idea for mail and you'll be scrambling to keep your users and paying customers unless you stay nimble in this category.

What's with the downvoting? This is one of the few places where MS is currently competing with Google on an equal footing. Windows Live Mail has just as many users as GMail, but wont unless they keep up the innovation... MS needs to keep an online presence, and email is the perfect way to do this considering more people have an email address than use social networking...

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to tell Microsoft?

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Could you provide examples of things you like/don't like in OSX and XP?

OS X: can't deal with the Finder. I frequently don't know how to navigate to an upper directory, for example. I have troubles with the task bar, too (sometimes somehow I can't drag stuff into applications). I miss the show desktop button. I don't like that Apps stay open when I press "X" and I have to close them all with CMD+Q instead. Cut+Paste does not exist. It's all little things, but they add up. Windows 7: now…

> OS X: can't deal with the Finder. I frequently don't know how to navigate to an upper directory, for example.

Four ways I know of.

1. Use the column view so you can see every folder you've navigated through. (My preference)

2. Right click on the title bar's label.

3. Use the path button on the toolbar.

4. Use the back button (Yeah, it's not always up)

If the toolbar is missing, click the white button at the top right of the window to return to a regular Finder window.

:) That said, none of those are exactly obvious which is a recurring problem with OSX. About the only thing OSX gets right in that category is that almost everything behaves the same so you don't have to figure it out twice. For example, open a document in textedit, you can right click on the title and get the folder tree the file exists in.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to tell Microsoft?

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There are plenty of attempts at the creation of new walled gardens, but I don't think they will have a very long life. The examples you give are all tied to very specific hardware, microsoft thrived on open hardware making tools and supporting those tools. Look at where IBM is going for what microsoft could be like.

I would really like to believe that, but more and more I think we're heading for a closed/industry. The App Store isn't the only example, how about all those developers integrating their apps with Facebook, Twitter or the Google apis.

Github.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/github.com

Really, open source is growing faster than it ever did before, the products are getting much better, they're slowly wising up to the fact that open source does not mean 'shitty support' or 'no need for marketing'. More and more people are finding ways to make money in open source projects.

Drupal got a very large amount of funding based on software they're giving away (ok, not my personal choice, but still).

And so on. Open source is maturing, and microsoft could do a lot worse than set a trend for a change instead of trying to hold on to the brakes as hard as they can.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to tell Microsoft?

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I would like Microsoft's Developer Division to start supporting Linux more ... Windows servers are too expensive for me making scale-out strategies a PITA and IMHO technically inferior to Linux from a startup perspective. Biztalk/Webspark are nice initiatives, but not enough. And I would totally shell out the cash for a MSDN subscription / Visual Studio if I could choose Linux for deployment. Better yet, collaborate…

Collaboration with Mono on .NET would be the "killer" news for me. With Java looking increasingly shaky, it'd be nice to have a second "write-once, run-everywhere" paradigm.

While this may not end up being the greatest of reasons, a lot of my classmates shy away from .NET languages/MSFT technologies because they're more difficult to develop in Linux. Getting rid of that complaint would be super awesome.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to tell Microsoft?

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At this point probably the smartest thing which Microsoft could do would be to adopt some Linux distro (perhaps OpenSuSE, which they already have some relationship with) and base all of their future development on top of it. At a stroke this would eliminate many of their security and malware problems, dramatically improving the user experience.

Windows remains prevalent, but at present as a software developer I'm not seeing much of a future for it, other than as a legacy system that I may need to support, and am recommending home and business users to move to other platforms (either Linux or Mac) whenever that's possible.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to tell Microsoft?

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As low as possible, and ideally virtually instantaneous. From a cold boot, I'd put a cap of 10-15 seconds tops.

Why would anyone reboot a system, instead of putting it to sleep¹? (Except when restart is required by an upgrade.) [1] Powered-off-and-ram-image-stored-to-disk type of sleep.

My work laptop (Vista `Enterprise') takes longer to wake from hibernate than it does to cold boot.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to tell Microsoft?

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Do something courageous with web browsers - deprecate the IE line of browsers and create a completely new browser based on WebKit. Offer both to users for a few years with a view to phasing IE out completely within X years (say 5). Maybe offer a way of providing hints (maybe through AD GPOs) of which sites should be opened using which browser - that would probably make short term adoption within enterprises less pain…

I would add to this: make MS web apps compatible with all browsers. It really does not make any sense that for big apps that cost a lot of money like Dynamics apps you have to use IE or the app does not work.

I worked on Dynamics CRM for more than a year and I can tell you this: you do not get any relevant benefit from IE as a platform (as a user as well as a developer), it's annoying for developers that cannot use their tool of choice, it's annoying for client that have to switch to a different browser just to use the app. Moreover it's slow and buggy, and this makes the experience with the app, that is not very good, even less pleasant.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to tell Microsoft?

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A modest request: please, with each version don't make it more and more difficult to make the Windows explorer behave as in Windows 95. I mean having a folder tree and detailed view. Some people still work a lot with files and folders "the old way".

Bonus points for not moving the configuration screens around.

Things that have changed with explorer: less space for content, caused by adding not-so-useful toolbars, folders tree replaced by "selected" or "favourites" pane, "easy mode" tree navigation that prevents opening more than one branch at the same time, default to "libraries" in Windows 7, default to views other than detail, sometimes very difficult to change, hiding file extensions, folder redirection... Most of the changes can be reverted touching some registry or configuration setting, but it's increasingly difficult and time consuming, and sometimes impossible.

I guess the changes are intended for new users, but it would be very welcomed to have a "classic mode" switch somewhere. Usability is important, but please consider that old users have different usability requirements. For me Windows is less and less usable with each version.

About the config dialogs, I've recently had to make a novice user to change the DHCP settings for Windows 7 over the phone. It wasn't an easy task.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to tell Microsoft?

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I want to say, "Thank you." Lately, I've been working to print Office documents and Outlook emails to PDFs for a product in the legal industry, and Microsoft's documentation, their CodePlex projects and their interoperability teams have made this process surprisingly painless.

It's a pity that IronRuby was largely cancelled, however—I would love to have more high-quality dynamic languages under .NET. Microsoft has a variety of excellent static languages, but dynamic languages like Python, Ruby and JavaScript are all very popular, and Microsoft hasn't had a popular tool in this space since Visual Basic became a static language.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to tell Microsoft?

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1. Fire your browser team - the entire division. IE is the dead, stinking remains of 90s technology. Save yourself a ton of grief and money and standardize on Gecko or Webkit. Then make it a mandatory upgrade. Do what Apple did - change or get left behind. It may hurt in the short run, but it's paid off in the long run.

2. You know that buzz that Apple and Google have? When was the last time you heard anyone who doesn't work there say the same thing about Microsoft? Your mindshare is a dead stinking corpse in the middle the street that no one cares about.

3. Get smaller and get faster. Mozilla updates every couple of months and its like a party. Safari updates whenever Apple feels like it (which is still faster than you guys). Chrome updates whenever they take their ritalin. They all update faster than you guys. You've got 40 million programmers up there and this is the best you can do?

4. Other platforms exist. At a minimum, your browser should be on them (see point 1 first, though). Us Mac users thank you and curse you (well, I do, anyway) for allowing to have Office. Now go do the same for Linux.

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