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Want To Be A Freelancer? Just Punch Yourself In The Face, Instead

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Re: Want To Be A Freelancer? Just Punch Yourself In The Face, Instead

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post #9

> All life is work So better make sure you enjoy your work! Otherwise doing more of it is going to make you feel miserable. Just like there are employees that are unhappy in their jobs because of the nature of the job so it happens that in freelancing if you don't like your job you're going to feel bad. Especially if you are doing more of it... > The hunter lives in a hard world Yes, but when you are kicked out, laid…

I dont think the author needs your advice, the post was half written as advice and half I expect a cathartic "bitch", at least thats how it came off for me.

people can enjoy something immensely and still feel the need to bitch about it once in a while, I think thats fairly healthy.

Re: Want To Be A Freelancer? Just Punch Yourself In The Face, Instead

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post #10

One item I disagree with. You are a freelancer, but you are also a company. You are employed under whatever name you are doing business as. If you don't have a business name, then it's just your own name as a sole proprietor. You can give yourself a real work history and paychecks, just like you would be receiving by working for any other company. Whatever is left over after your regular paychecks you can give yourse…

You can't put yourself on salary unless the business entity is a corporation or an LLC taxed as a corporation. Even if you do payroll for yourself you still have to file a 1099 and a schedule c. For a freelancer a Corp is a bit overkill and you get taxed twice.

Re: Want To Be A Freelancer? Just Punch Yourself In The Face, Instead

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Common freelancer mistake is not charging enough or trying to compete with large companies on commodity markerts where margins are just too low. Not generating enough revenue is the direct cause of not being able to afford holidays, time off because of sickness, training, seminars or being worried about periods when work stream peters out.

It's hard for a freelancer to employ the economies of scale and hence they need to specialise n a niche where they can outdo big players and charge bigger premium to pay for overheads and cover the risks.

A freelancer carries more risks than even a small size company that aren't pooled: sickness, a spot of weak demand for a specific product, not getting paid. Certain overheads are also higher per "head": sales, bookkeeping, legal.

One need to charge a top buck and keep overheads low to maintain a sustainable freelance operation. I saw so many freelancers going back to permanent after 2-3 years just because they were not charging enough to compensate for the risks, extra work and flexibility of the service they were providing.

Re: Want To Be A Freelancer? Just Punch Yourself In The Face, Instead

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post #9

> All life is work So better make sure you enjoy your work! Otherwise doing more of it is going to make you feel miserable. Just like there are employees that are unhappy in their jobs because of the nature of the job so it happens that in freelancing if you don't like your job you're going to feel bad. Especially if you are doing more of it... > The hunter lives in a hard world Yes, but when you are kicked out, laid…

I dont think the author needs your advice, the post was half written as advice and half I expect a cathartic "bitch", at least thats how it came off for me. people can enjoy something immensely and still feel the need to bitch about it once in a while, I think thats fairly healthy.

If he meant what he wrote he should get a job, seriously.

I love the freedom that being a freelancer gives me and I could write about the hard times but I'd still do it without a bitter aftertaste like this.

Of course everything has its good and its bad sides but this sounds like someone that is very frustrated but that has found nothing better than what he's doing.

Also I notice he's a writer, now writing code and writing books are completely different for the 'average' level. An average coder can bring in quite a bit of money if they play their cards smart (look at me ;)), but an average writer would have a very hard time to make ends meet.

Writing books is more like making music than it is to writing code. And music can be tough too, as long as you don't make it in the 'big league'.

Freelance writing is tough from a financial point of view, and that's something that you presumably know before you pick that particular poison.

I find this piece much more negative than just the facts presented, the undertone is such that I hope people do not take this as the 'average' outlook of freelancers on their work and their work environment as well as their financial situation. It is not representative as far as my experience and the free-lancers that I work with are concerned.

You can't negate the tone of that article with a single line of 'because it's awesome, duh' at the end.

Re: Want To Be A Freelancer? Just Punch Yourself In The Face, Instead

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Once you have some savings in the bank, it is a lot less stressful. For me then, a time without contracts is not a loss. I have enough other things to do, like working on my own projects that hopefully will eventually get me out of the consulting circle for good.

I also think as a freelancer it is easier to meet a lot of people. For one thing, you typically see more different companies. But there is also more incentive to go to technology meetups and networking events.

Re: Want To Be A Freelancer? Just Punch Yourself In The Face, Instead

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post #10

One item I disagree with. You are a freelancer, but you are also a company. You are employed under whatever name you are doing business as. If you don't have a business name, then it's just your own name as a sole proprietor. You can give yourself a real work history and paychecks, just like you would be receiving by working for any other company. Whatever is left over after your regular paychecks you can give yourse…

You can't put yourself on salary unless the business entity is a corporation or an LLC taxed as a corporation. Even if you do payroll for yourself you still have to file a 1099 and a schedule c. For a freelancer a Corp is a bit overkill and you get taxed twice.

I was thinking more along the lines of building a history. Open a business bank account and a personal account. Give yourself regular payments (bi-weekly / monthly) from the business account. Perhaps then you could show your statements to the bank when asking for a housing loan. You would be demonstrating that even though the income of your business is up and down, you are able to provide yourself a steady living wage and that you have reserves to smooth out the bumps. Maybe this wouldn't help though, not sure. I'm a "freelancer" myself but I have never attempted to get a loan.

Re: Want To Be A Freelancer? Just Punch Yourself In The Face, Instead

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There was a time when I thought freelancing means freedom. I no longer think that. In my experience the difference between a day-job and freelancing is much smaller than the difference between freelancing and starting a startup. Freelancing and day-job are almost the same for me: work for other people to earn money from month to month to support my family. Starting a startup (or doing a side project) is different. It is more about dreams, creativity and 'unlimited' possibilities.

Re: Want To Be A Freelancer? Just Punch Yourself In The Face, Instead

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It's not the first time that I hear health insurance mentioned in stories I read on Hacker News. As a person living far away from USA I'm afraid I'm not getting the situation, and they don't seem to write about this sort of stuff often on the Net - because that's the way things are, except I think they are different in different countries.

For example, here in Russia every citizen including unemployed (which I am now) and retired has health insurance. It's of the basic type, you don't actually expect to get much good out of it, but at least you won't have to pay for a visit to physician. When you get a job, you receive health insurance from your company. It will be issued by different insurance company than when you are unemployed, but unless your company cares to provide you with extra health benefits, you will get the same benefits as unemployed person. I never worked at such a company though, and I started to think that maybe I should choose as my new job a company that provides a good health insurance end exercise some of those nice health benefits. Maybe pass some thorough medical examinations for free and receive whatever treatment needed (I have some issues with my health, but nothing that I can put my finger at and it nothing too serious to warrant the bother, up to this point). When I told about this to a doctor acquaintance, she said that in her opinion it is always wiser to get a high paying job and pay in cash instead, because that's the only way you can motivate doctors to treat you[sic]. So I keep wondering: do we have the situation so very backwards? I have really few information to compare.

Where can I read up on how health insurance works in the USA? Information about other countries is also welcome as well.

Why is the option of buying health insurance for a freelancer not even considered?

Re: Want To Be A Freelancer? Just Punch Yourself In The Face, Instead

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post #6

I'm an independent consultant. I live within my means and never worry about money, much less have cash flow problems. Considering I get to do what I love in the process, every day is like Christmas when I put it in perspective. I have health insurance. It's actually cheaper than what my contribution was the last time I had it "provided" as a benefit, for about the same coverage. Being part of a big risk pool is nice,…

"If you don't make time, you'll never have time. The author seems to be falling into the all-too-common trap of equating long hours with productivity."

Not necessarily. It probably depends on the market you are in. The author is a writer: maybe it is a bit harder for him than for a software consultant: maybe he has to work more to earn enough money. Also I have a freelancer friend who is very productive just somehow he is trapped into a market where there is not too much money. (He (and I) lives in Eastern Europe, and works for not too big/rich companies.)

Re: Want To Be A Freelancer? Just Punch Yourself In The Face, Instead

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont think the author needs your advice, the post was half written as advice and half I expect a cathartic "bitch", at least thats how it came off for me. people can enjoy something immensely and still feel the need to bitch about it once in a while, I think thats fairly healthy.

If he meant what he wrote he should get a job, seriously. I love the freedom that being a freelancer gives me and I could write about the hard times but I'd still do it without a bitter aftertaste like this. Of course everything has its good and its bad sides but this sounds like someone that is very frustrated but that has found nothing better than what he's doing. Also I notice he's a writer, now writing code and w…

the first few paragraphs are all about how much he loves his work, It sounds exactly like someone who loves what they are doing but wants to point out that it isnt all sunshine and roses for people thinking about doing the same thing.

he is obviously a very good creative writer, you probably need to read it a little less literally.

when I first seen the title I remembers pg's quote straight away "doing a startup is like being punched in the face repeatedly, but a 9-5 job is like being waterboarded"

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