It always bothers me when there are complaints of treating someone differently while also describing those persons as "hyphenated Americans". I don't think those, in this article, described themselves as such but you can't be the same and different at the same time.
3 Black Teenage Scientists Had a Breakthrough, Then Came the Trolls
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#22Slight off-topic. I'm sure this has been said before, but I'm saddened to catch myself doing it. All my life I've been indifferent to matters of race, and so if I'd read 10 years ago about 3 black girls doing whatever I wouldn't have thought twice about it. But after what's been happening in recent years, I just caught myself thinking: "3 black girls? I wonder if they didn't win as part of the diversity quota" :-/ I…
Off topic: I just wish people understood what a troll is rather than using the term for anyone abusive or bigoted. Like you aren't getting trolled simply by getting hateful engagements on social media. On topic: As long as it's not considered racist just because they are African American. It's like where I live a woman at a sports match threw a banana at an indigenous person, completely ignorant to any race issue. Ye…
It's like where I live a woman at a sports match threw a banana at an indigenous person, completely ignorant to any race issue.
Unfortunately, that's one of those symbols that people recognize as being a racist attack. I may get mad at my local church, but where I live I can't burn a cross in my yard to show that anger.
I once picked up my child from a new day care. We are white and the woman in charge is black. I picked up my son and said to him, "there's my little monkey" (he was my "boat monkey") and the woman was taken aback. A moment later she realized what I had said, but just using the term "monkey" in front of her set off some sort of warning apparently.
Re: 3 Black Teenage Scientists Had a Breakthrough, Then Came the Trolls
#23> Hundreds of schools across the United States have drinking water that is contaminated by lead How?
Old buildings that were built before we had a clue about lead plumbing and lead paint.
In school districts that don't have the money to do much about it
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#24I read about this a couple days ago. Apparently this started the nonsense: https://twitter.com/Pash_away/status/988951710524583937 Lots of varying levels of "wrong" to go around IMO.
Funny how none of the news mention that pro-black groups started the vote manipulation, which resulted in trolls escalating the manipulation.
Seems like a standard news day to me. Why let all the facts get in the way of good clickbait?
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#25Meta-Comment: While I really don't doubt a bunch of racist trolls would do something like this, I've seen /b/ do enough dumb shit over the years, but I don't see why these papers (NPR, WaPo) don't at least include an example, i.e. screen-shot, of the calls for vote-rigging. Would make the cynic in me, and hopefully others, thinking this is a stunt for free press, like with the Clock Kid, go away.
NASA made the claim about vote rigging. You really think they would lie just to get some free PR ? And the "clock kid" incident wasn't a stunt. The child was actually accused of being a terrorist, handcuffed and detailed by police. And then when the news spread he was subjected to continued racial and xenophobic taunts.
> NASA made the claim about vote rigging. You really think they would lie just to get some free PR ?
Well, I thought journalists were supposed to do investigative work and not just publish a PR statement, but so is today's media.
> And the "clock kid" incident wasn't a stunt.
There sure were a lot of folks there saying he was pretending it was, and jokingly or not that's going to get you a real bad response in this day and age.
But since it "validates" a lot of folks' views on how the world is, of course they want to believe and parade it around.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It does in the US. People seem to get confused though and expect that repugnant speech won't have any consequences.
> People seem to get confused though and expect that repugnant speech won't have any consequences. And for folks who scream "Free Speech doesn't mean Free of Consequence" and engage in harassment campaigns causing targets to lose jobs, homes, and everything else, I hope you're fine with the same thing happening to you when someone finds your views repugnant. We're trying to push the societal ball forward, not revert…
There's plenty of room for consequences that don't rise anywhere near the level of a harassment campaign.
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#27I read about this a couple days ago. Apparently this started the nonsense: https://twitter.com/Pash_away/status/988951710524583937 Lots of varying levels of "wrong" to go around IMO.
There’s a big difference between lending a hand to lift someone up and using a boot to stomp them down.
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#28Slight off-topic. I'm sure this has been said before, but I'm saddened to catch myself doing it. All my life I've been indifferent to matters of race, and so if I'd read 10 years ago about 3 black girls doing whatever I wouldn't have thought twice about it. But after what's been happening in recent years, I just caught myself thinking: "3 black girls? I wonder if they didn't win as part of the diversity quota" :-/ I…
I’ve never met anyone who claims racism doesn’t exist. Perhaps I haven’t met the right troll? The odd thing about racism is that we typically see it in the US as a asian/black/white/hispanic issue where historically race was finer grained, especially when talking about a much more homogeneous population. Historically Brits would consider the French, Irish, or Italians as a different race, and, yes, have racist views…
> I’ve never met anyone who claims racism doesn’t exist. Perhaps I haven’t met the right troll?
I think you haven't met the right troll.
If you ask "are you saying that racism doesn't exist?", the sophisticated troll will not give you a yes or no answer. If he said yes he would lose because there are so many examples that it exists and he would be unmasked as an obvious troll, if he said no he would lose because then you would have some justification in whatever your claim was.
> The problem is that discrimination based on categorization is how the human brain works.
Yes, I think that is right.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> People seem to get confused though and expect that repugnant speech won't have any consequences. And for folks who scream "Free Speech doesn't mean Free of Consequence" and engage in harassment campaigns causing targets to lose jobs, homes, and everything else, I hope you're fine with the same thing happening to you when someone finds your views repugnant. We're trying to push the societal ball forward, not revert…
There's plenty of room for consequences that don't rise anywhere near the level of a harassment campaign.
> There's plenty of room for consequences that don't rise anywhere near the level of a harassment campaign.
Care to give some examples?
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#30I read about this a couple days ago. Apparently this started the nonsense: https://twitter.com/Pash_away/status/988951710524583937 Lots of varying levels of "wrong" to go around IMO.
Whatever. Online polls are always subject to people using their social media influence to push results one way or another.