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“Manager READMEs” from some tech companies

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Re: “Manager READMEs” from some tech companies

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Reads like managers dictating how they are and how things are going to be. Employee number whatever: Here are your new instructions, deal with it.

One of the READMEs specifically promised that the manager believes their paid job is to adapt to their reports' style, so, no.

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Reads like managers dictating how they are and how things are going to be. Employee number whatever: Here are your new instructions, deal with it.

One of the READMEs specifically promised that the manager believes their paid job is to adapt to their reports' style, so, no.

One out of 12?

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Interesting that many seem to prefer weekly 1:1s. That seems far too much to me. I would absolutely dread having to spend so much time on that with my manager or my managees and I can’t imagine there are substantial benefits to it (does anyone REALLY have meaningful thoughts about their job/career path EVERY WEEK?)

I thought the same thing. Weekly 1:1s are worthless. That’s coming from an employee who had to do them and a manager who refuses to do them.

I found them a waste of time when I had to do them. I hated them because if I needed to discuss something with my boss I would, and I had better things to do with my time than talk to him. They are also an interruption, so even if they are only 5 minutes, that’s at least 30 minutes of ramp up and down time.

Re: “Manager READMEs” from some tech companies

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These should be taken as the hypothesis statement at the start of an experiment, that will or won't be borne out by what actually happens. Show, don't tell. One reason: People can be wrong about themselves. Or they can, with varying degrees of either idealism or self-dishonesty, present a rosy view that amounts to little more than a sales pitch for themselves. If it's true, you'll find out soon enough. If it's not, you'll find out soon enough. Therefore these documents have little value and should be kept to the minimum length needed to discuss practical things like email expectations and overall goals - things everybody has to agree on.

Re: “Manager READMEs” from some tech companies

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How about an employee README? > This is how I prefer to be managed...

Employee_README.md: I don't need a manager. Just tell me what you want and I'll make it for you without anyone messing up with my productivity. Thank you!

more like hackernews_user.md

Re: “Manager READMEs” from some tech companies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the READMEs specifically promised that the manager believes their paid job is to adapt to their reports' style, so, no.

One out of 12?

If you were a manager, what would your README say?

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The best company I've ever worked for had no managers (beside owners). They made it to $1B, loved by HN crowd, their products used by many of you, and nobody ever wanted to manage anything there. People just discussed stuff and decided to do whatever looked super interesting. One team there had actually a person that was behaving like a manager, and that product completely flopped on the market.

Sounds fun. Did they ultimately succeed as a business though?

Re: “Manager READMEs” from some tech companies

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Interesting that many seem to prefer weekly 1:1s. That seems far too much to me. I would absolutely dread having to spend so much time on that with my manager or my managees and I can’t imagine there are substantial benefits to it (does anyone REALLY have meaningful thoughts about their job/career path EVERY WEEK?)

Eh, I think it depends on the individual. I have a 1:1 with my manager every three weeks, and that's plenty for me. If something urgent comes up between meetings (which is pretty rare), he's just a Slack message away. But some employees have enough to discuss that weekly is great for them. I think it's nice for a manager to at least give their reports the option of a weekly 1:1; if there's nothing to discuss sometime…

You probably hit on why some people love them and why some don’t. I think it depends on the manager, the employee, and the nature of the job. When I was an employee, I hated them. As a manager, I talk enough with my employees that scheduled 1-on-1s are unnecessary. We are also so busy that I can’t see scheduling 1-on-1s. But I could see other companies, employees and managers being different.

Re: “Manager READMEs” from some tech companies

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Interesting that many seem to prefer weekly 1:1s. That seems far too much to me. I would absolutely dread having to spend so much time on that with my manager or my managees and I can’t imagine there are substantial benefits to it (does anyone REALLY have meaningful thoughts about their job/career path EVERY WEEK?)

(I'm one of the managers with a README in the article) It really depends - I've had direct reports that have had plenty to cover on a weekly basis, and others that don't really have anything new -- the point of the weekly 1:1's is that they have dedicated time whatever they want or need from me - and it's their time to use as they see fit. If they want to skip that week because there's nothing new on their side, that…

We had/have similar concepts at my first employer NASA/JPL and my current employer Red Hat. At JPL we called them Quiet Hours, in practice were closer to 30 minutes and they were held at least monthly which is significant amount of time when managers had 15 or more subordinates. Sometimes we rolled them into lunches. At Red Hat Consulting, we’re geographically distributed (even if geographically organized) because of our projects so we do 15-30 minute calls once or twice a month.

It’s a practice I’ve induced my managers into since JPL. And they’re hugely emotionally helpful since I don’t normally have a team that I work with to bounce things off of at lunch or happy hour anymore.

Kudos to you Elliott. Sounds like you’d be a decent manager to work with.

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