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Re: Hello Qt for Python

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Post by cup-of-tea » Sat, May 05, 2018, 7:20 PM UTC

veeti wrote: post #7

cup-of-tea wrote: post #5

I used PyQt5 quite successfully a while back. This looks very similar. What is actually new here?

Permissive license.

So PyQt5 is GPL. Practically speaking what is the point of a new permissively licensed library?

Re: Hello Qt for Python

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Post by mherrmann » Sat, May 05, 2018, 7:23 PM UTC

craftyguy wrote: post #10

fooker wrote: post #6

What happened to PyQt? Also, the API does not seem Pythonic at all.

PyQt is still around. This seems to be an 'official' thing from the Qt folks.

... with a more permissive licence (Qt for Python is LGPL, PyQt is GPL or $550 per dev commercially).

Re: Hello Qt for Python

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Post by mherrmann » Sat, May 05, 2018, 7:24 PM UTC

std_throwaway wrote: post #8

This seems to be the successor for PySide that supports Qt 5. The old PySide died some years ago and only PyQt was offering Qt 5 support. Due to some details PyQt was never officially supported by Qt. Is PySide2 now officially supported by Qt?

PyQt is not affiliated with Qt the company. "Qt for Python" (formerly PySide2) is. So, yes.

Re: Hello Qt for Python

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Post by billsix » Sat, May 05, 2018, 7:24 PM UTC

jimnotgym wrote: post #2

I would love to hear more about this from the sages of HN. I really don't enjoy GUI development in Python. I am not a good enough CS to have the language to describe what is wrong, but I find it really hard to get Python GUI stuff to do what I want.

Retained-mode GUIs like Qt , wxWidgets, gtk, etc aren't intuitive. Try an immediate mode GUI, like my python bindings to nuklear

https://github.com/billsix/pyNuklear

Re: Hello Qt for Python

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Post by mherrmann » Sat, May 05, 2018, 7:25 PM UTC

cup-of-tea wrote: post #11

veeti wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Permissive license.

So PyQt5 is GPL. Practically speaking what is the point of a new permissively licensed library?

Eg. that you can use it for free(?)

Re: Hello Qt for Python

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Post by mherrmann » Sat, May 05, 2018, 7:28 PM UTC

Very happy to hear this as the author of a PyQt-based file manager [1] and an open source library for solving the many headaches that come with developing desktop apps [2]. Once Qt for Python is stable enough, I'll be happy to switch to it from PyQt.

[1]: https://fman.io

[2]: https://github.com/mherrmann/fbs

Re: Hello Qt for Python

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Post by sevensor » Sat, May 05, 2018, 7:30 PM UTC

mherrmann wrote: post #12

craftyguy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PyQt is still around. This seems to be an 'official' thing from the Qt folks.

... with a more permissive licence (Qt for Python is LGPL, PyQt is GPL or $550 per dev commercially).

And it's generally worth it. PyQt has been great, and I find the messaging from Pyside a little offputting -- "finally, Qt for Python." Pyside, you weren't there when I needed you, and now you're back and you want to pretend like we don't have history?

Re: Hello Qt for Python

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, May 05, 2018, 7:34 PM UTC

mherrmann wrote: post #16

Very happy to hear this as the author of a PyQt-based file manager [1] and an open source library for solving the many headaches that come with developing desktop apps [2]. Once Qt for Python is stable enough, I'll be happy to switch to it from PyQt. [1]: https://fman.io [2]: https://github.com/mherrmann/fbs

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Re: Hello Qt for Python

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Post by Walkman » Sat, May 05, 2018, 7:35 PM UTC

fooker wrote: post #6

What happened to PyQt? Also, the API does not seem Pythonic at all.

I think PyQt is owned by a different company, so Nothing happened to it, I guess.

PySide is waaaay more Pythonic than PyQt ever was. Types are actually translated to Python native types and APIs are way more Pythonic and not just translated 1:1 like PyQt.

Re: Hello Qt for Python

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Post by mcny » Sat, May 05, 2018, 7:35 PM UTC

Anyone else getting Heroku application error?

https://archive.fo/DdJpj