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Prevalence of vitamin D deficiency in adults admitted to psychiatric hospital

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Re: Prevalence of vitamin D deficiency in adults admitted to psychiatric hospital

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TL;DR the jury is still out on whether or not you need the D for your mental health.

I'm not sure if I got downvoted for the joke, or because people think I'm wrong, but near the end of the study it says "At the current time, there is insufficient evidence to draw any firm conclusions regarding an association between vitamin D deficiency and non-musculoskeletal health outcomes, including mental illness." So the jury is in fact out on whether or not you need vitamin D for your mental health.

Re: Prevalence of vitamin D deficiency in adults admitted to psychiatric hospital

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As these kind of stories are so popular on HN, I recently started curating a list at https://github.com/Jimnotgym/Hacking_Depression I hope it helps someone one day.

Definitely a nice idea. Although I'd strongly suggest to leave out the recommendation about supplements and drugs.

The study PDF says that it's not clear why there's a correlation with Vitamin D deficiency but one explanation might be that people stay inside.

Regarding drugs, actually people with a latent "sleeping" schizophrenia can get a psychosis even from soft drugs like Marijuana. Marijuana is a lightly psychedelic drugs, Magic Mushrooms even more so.

At least you should put around a giant disclaimer and possibly also link to websites like erowid.org which go into a lot of detail, I guess they should also have details about complications, safer use etc.

Re: Prevalence of vitamin D deficiency in adults admitted to psychiatric hospital

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These kinds of studies often feel like the result of some p-hacking. Take a smallish sample size from a population of interest, record a bunch of data on them, then pick the result that is most abnormal and say “hmmm maybe this is why this population is different.” Not saying that’s the case here I’m just always skeptical until I know the methodology.

Re: Prevalence of vitamin D deficiency in adults admitted to psychiatric hospital

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As these kind of stories are so popular on HN, I recently started curating a list at https://github.com/Jimnotgym/Hacking_Depression I hope it helps someone one day.

An incredibly smart idea. Thank you. +1

Re: Prevalence of vitamin D deficiency in adults admitted to psychiatric hospital

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Most of these patients are likely exhibiting some spectrum of antisocial behavior, which means staying indoors or generally away from other people. I don't think it's as interesting as it seems. I'm rather certain there's a sensible explanation.

> ...antisocial behavior, which means staying indoors or generally away from other people. That is not at all what "antisocial behavior" means. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-social_behaviour

Right. I learned that in the UK there is even an Anti-social Behavior Order (ASBO), essentially a catch-all law for people exhibiting these behaviors (which apparently spans all kinds of stuff from graffiti to littering). No comment as to the rightness or wrongness of this, but there it is.

Re: Prevalence of vitamin D deficiency in adults admitted to psychiatric hospital

#47

As these kind of stories are so popular on HN, I recently started curating a list at https://github.com/Jimnotgym/Hacking_Depression I hope it helps someone one day.

Definitely a nice idea. Although I'd strongly suggest to leave out the recommendation about supplements and drugs. The study PDF says that it's not clear why there's a correlation with Vitamin D deficiency but one explanation might be that people stay inside. Regarding drugs, actually people with a latent "sleeping" schizophrenia can get a psychosis even from soft drugs like Marijuana. Marijuana is a lightly psychede…

> Although I'd strongly suggest to leave out the recommendation about supplements and drugs.

I don't think there are any recommendations in the list at all, just a list of reading materials to discuss with your doctor

Re: Prevalence of vitamin D deficiency in adults admitted to psychiatric hospital

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As these kind of stories are so popular on HN, I recently started curating a list at https://github.com/Jimnotgym/Hacking_Depression I hope it helps someone one day.

Would you like to add this book to your list? I posted it to HN, but it never got any attention.

"Nutrient Power: by William J. Walsh" https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14603192-nutrient-power

If found it via this article: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/02/bill-sardi/weaning-away-...

"Dr. Walsh concludes, after years of investigation, that a gene-altering process called methylation (explained below) is involved in 70% of serious psychiatric conditions. That means it will soon be possible to molecularly reverse chronic mental problems. As brain science advances, the use of psychiatric drugs will gradually become obsolete since most mental disorders involve disturbances or imbalances of essential nutrients that alter brain function."

Re: Prevalence of vitamin D deficiency in adults admitted to psychiatric hospital

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As these kind of stories are so popular on HN, I recently started curating a list at https://github.com/Jimnotgym/Hacking_Depression I hope it helps someone one day.

Good stuff. You might want to take a look at this too: https://www.mindful.org/the-mindful-way-through-depression-v... .

"Studies in recent years have shown MBCT to be 43 per cent effective in reducing relapse in sufferers of depression—as effective as antidepressants."

Re: Prevalence of vitamin D deficiency in adults admitted to psychiatric hospital

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post #15

If you are going to supplement your vitamin D, just make sure to monitor your calcium too. My wife sees patients taking high doses of vitamin D, because their doctor puts them on it, or they do it themselves, and they do not realize that they are doing massive damage to their bodies because their low vitamin D levels are caused by a parathyroid tumor. http://www.parathyroid.com/low-vitamin-d.htm

This happens to your wife commonly?
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