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Re: Version 6 of Angular Now Available

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Post by dbbk » Sat, May 05, 2018, 2:14 PM UTC

bob1029 wrote: post #37

Sigh. Yet more confirmation that my team has made the correct choice in switching to a mostly vanilla JS development stack (we still use RiotJS for one-way template binding). I was there for the beginning of Angular and it got me hooked on single page applications, but what I am seeing now is the antithesis of productivity. No one building a website for a business should be using this stuff, unless they drank so much…

> Focus on what you want to build, not the tools you use to build it.

This is an interesting comment to me because, by essentially building your own framework, that onus is now completely on you. If you want to implement code splitting or tree shaking or whatever, you have to figure that out for yourself. That's time taken away from building product features. Whereas other frameworks can offer this out of the box because smart people in the open source community have figured that all out for you.

In addition, no one coming into your organisation has any continuity of knowledge, so they have to learn all the proprietary ways your app is set up, which is more time lost.

Re: Version 6 of Angular Now Available

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Post by tzipp » Sat, May 05, 2018, 2:16 PM UTC

alceta wrote: post #39

I was joyfully expecting this upgrade and checked the release notes daily during the RC phase. Don't let the quick 'major' version changes shock you, upgrading 4 -> 5 was easy and I expect the same for this upgrade. A big thanks to everyone involved in shaping this release and ensuring the upgradability for the past major versions, including the huge effort in making it possible to continuously migrate from AngularJS…

How about the story on mobile? Is there an Angular analog to React Native?

Re: Version 6 of Angular Now Available

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Post by smrtinsert » Sat, May 05, 2018, 2:17 PM UTC

antonkm wrote: post #13

Was a firm believer in Angular when it was version 2, made the switch to React before Angular version 4. Best choice I've done for productivity.

Just left an angular job. Got lots of calls about it. Told them i wanted nothing to do with it. Very happy with that decision.

Re: Version 6 of Angular Now Available

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Post by zzbzq » Sat, May 05, 2018, 2:18 PM UTC

tzipp wrote: post #42

alceta wrote: post #39

I was joyfully expecting this upgrade and checked the release notes daily during the RC phase. Don't let the quick 'major' version changes shock you, upgrading 4 -> 5 was easy and I expect the same for this upgrade. A big thanks to everyone involved in shaping this release and ensuring the upgradability for the past major versions, including the huge effort in making it possible to continuously migrate from AngularJS…

How about the story on mobile? Is there an Angular analog to React Native?

Called NativeScript. I can't vouch for it quality or support.

Re: Version 6 of Angular Now Available

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Post by tzipp » Sat, May 05, 2018, 2:22 PM UTC

zzbzq wrote: post #44

tzipp wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about the story on mobile? Is there an Angular analog to React Native?

Called NativeScript. I can't vouch for it quality or support.

That's what I'm wondering. I can see a lot of material vouching for the quality of React Native, but I see very little consistently coming out for the Angular competitors in the mobile sphere.

For what it's worth, I really like Angular for web development, but I don't know much about the mobile side of things yet. I've just started to look into it.

Re: Version 6 of Angular Now Available

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Post by InTheArena » Sat, May 05, 2018, 3:06 PM UTC

This upgrade looks absolutely fantastic. The Elements piece in particular looks amazing, and has the potential to be a real game changer for shops that have a diverse set of applications that they use, and need large scale re-use of components.

At the mid-size corporation that I work at, we just standardized all Javascript development on Angular from a mismash of a ton of technologies. Angular seems very well suited for this role.

There was a interesting statistic recently that showed that Angular was dominating "east coast" applications (traditional financial services, pharma, insurance, manufacturing, established CS) while React was most popular in "west coast" applications - primarily silicon valley, etc.

I'm glad these two technologies are here to push each other.

Re: Version 6 of Angular Now Available

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Post by rantanplan » Sat, May 05, 2018, 3:06 PM UTC

dtech wrote: post #29

rantanplan wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Angular 6 and all future main releases will be supported for 18 months. Does that mean that every 18 months you'd have to rewrite your app in the newer angular version? And if not, what does it mean?

"rewrite your app in the newest version" is more commonly known as upgrading... 18 months support seems fairly reasonable depending on how breaking new releases are.

Yes, due to the highly volatile JS landscape I was just trying to figure out what it means. So thanks

Don't know why I got downvoted but ok I guess.

Re: Version 6 of Angular Now Available

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Post by city41 » Sat, May 05, 2018, 3:26 PM UTC

stupidcar wrote: post #26

antonkm wrote: post #13

Was a firm believer in Angular when it was version 2, made the switch to React before Angular version 4. Best choice I've done for productivity.

I'd offer the opposite perspective: I started a recent app in React, and I wish I'd stuck with Angular. The core of the React render model is beautiful. It's far quicker to start writing and using a new component in React than in Angular, and the functional nature of React components feels good and highly productive. At first. But the problem is, around that beautiful core, the React community has built a mass of lib…

I like the flexibility React provides. I’m working on two React apps right now. One using Apollo and the other Redux. The two libraries fit each app’s unique needs very well. One app really is a single page (it’s a drag and drop design tool) and so doesn’t have a router. I like that I can just bring in exactly what I need.

Re: Version 6 of Angular Now Available

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Post by joshribakoff » Sat, May 05, 2018, 3:37 PM UTC

mmargerum wrote: post #33

pbedat wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We recently began migrating a 4 year old and constantly growing angularjs 1.4 app to react. With angular2react and ngreact we don't face a lot of hard decisions, because we may use angular comps in react and vice versa. We have bootstrapped a angular 4/5 app at the same time, but react just feels right.

Vue feels much more like the natural successor to angular 1 than angular 6 or react are. The least ceremony to getting sh## done framework. React is just a view layer. You are going to have to pull in libraries for routing and state management (at least) I spent 3 months evaluating all 3 with a poc app and vue was the clear winner for me

> You are going to have to pull in libraries for ... state management

There is nothing wrong with using setState()... You don't have to pull in Redux, which itself is like 100 LOC minus the sanity checks & comments.

Re: Version 6 of Angular Now Available

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Post by Griever » Sat, May 05, 2018, 3:45 PM UTC

smrtinsert wrote: post #43

antonkm wrote: post #13

Was a firm believer in Angular when it was version 2, made the switch to React before Angular version 4. Best choice I've done for productivity.

Just left an angular job. Got lots of calls about it. Told them i wanted nothing to do with it. Very happy with that decision.

What were your main issues with Angular? I've been using it over the last year or so (coming from a React background) and I must say I'm quite pleased with how well it works for the team and I.