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China smartphone market suffers hard-landing, shipments decline 21% in Q1 2018

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Re: China smartphone market suffers hard-landing, shipments decline 21% in Q1 2018

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See: * Bass Diffusion Model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_diffusion_model * Diffusion of Innovation Model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_innovations These models have been fairly accurate in forecasting diffusion of innovation. While many of the innovators have started to exit and move on, this leaves the imitators around in a slowing market. Apple has been surprisingly good at being the forefront…

> Apple has already moved onto the next technological innovation: Apple Watch and wearables. Seriously? Are there any number at all to show that wearables are a growth bet at this point? The Apple Watch (which entered the market three years ago !) has had an uptake at least an order of magnitude lower than the iPad, the last "next technological innovation" that turned out not to be. Tablets were hot for a while, but…

Healthcare digitalization and consumer devices as medical devices is the next huge market that Apple is going to with Wearables. You can clearly see it from their actions that it is a part of their future strategy.

Apple is so big that it needs a huge new market to enter to make a difference in its revenue. Healthcare and transportation are huge markets. Apple is working on both.

Re: China smartphone market suffers hard-landing, shipments decline 21% in Q1 2018

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Thing is the Apple Watch is viewed as a status symbol primarily, despite Apple's marketing and messaging stating its a health monitoring/heads up display type device. Many of the people who buy it have no idea that it'll catch some potentially imminently fatal health conditions: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5683089/Apple-Watc... Its impressive how many people buy the Apple Watch without understanding wha…

I'd hardly call a 200 dollar watch a status symbol by any stretch of the imagination

I think it depends on the income. But, considering many people buy regular watches costing 20 times more, I wouldn't see an Apple watch as a status symbol either.

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The Apple Watch is probably a rounding error when compared to the iPhone, however: "But the most interesting stuff came when Cook referred to the success of Apple Watch. The Watch sales are part of the wearables business which also includes headphones such as Beats and AirPods. Last May, he said that business is approaching the size of a Fortune 500 company. More recently, last month, the size had crept up so it woul…

Thing is the Apple Watch is viewed as a status symbol primarily, despite Apple's marketing and messaging stating its a health monitoring/heads up display type device. Many of the people who buy it have no idea that it'll catch some potentially imminently fatal health conditions: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5683089/Apple-Watc... Its impressive how many people buy the Apple Watch without understanding wha…

Apple Watch Alerts New York Man of Health Crisis, Ends Up Saving His Life

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Smart-Watch-Saves-New-...

Re: China smartphone market suffers hard-landing, shipments decline 21% in Q1 2018

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Thing is the Apple Watch is viewed as a status symbol primarily, despite Apple's marketing and messaging stating its a health monitoring/heads up display type device. Many of the people who buy it have no idea that it'll catch some potentially imminently fatal health conditions: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5683089/Apple-Watc... Its impressive how many people buy the Apple Watch without understanding wha…

I'd hardly call a 200 dollar watch a status symbol by any stretch of the imagination

It sends a message, which my brain's social apparatus parses as a status-symbol brag (and finds very distasteful).

Re: China smartphone market suffers hard-landing, shipments decline 21% in Q1 2018

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Read Hank Paulson's book, Dealing with China. The Communist Party can only extract so much value from to masses while corruption and opacity are the norm in government. Instead of looking at the economy as a virtuous cycle of re-investment making more resources available for collateral, they treat the economy like a well and wonder why it keeps running dry.

Peter Navarros Death by China is a good read too

I enjoyed reading China's Great wall of Debt and The Hundred-year marathon.

Re: China smartphone market suffers hard-landing, shipments decline 21% in Q1 2018

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See: * Bass Diffusion Model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_diffusion_model * Diffusion of Innovation Model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_innovations These models have been fairly accurate in forecasting diffusion of innovation. While many of the innovators have started to exit and move on, this leaves the imitators around in a slowing market. Apple has been surprisingly good at being the forefront…

I use my smartphone, except for the obvious functionality, mainly for:

- reading

- responding emails

- GPS

I don't think I'm market fit for smartwatch and wearables.

I also don't see any success in AI self-driving, where alphabet is King.

Re: China smartphone market suffers hard-landing, shipments decline 21% in Q1 2018

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See: * Bass Diffusion Model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_diffusion_model * Diffusion of Innovation Model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_innovations These models have been fairly accurate in forecasting diffusion of innovation. While many of the innovators have started to exit and move on, this leaves the imitators around in a slowing market. Apple has been surprisingly good at being the forefront…

I think Apple is struggling on trying to figure out what the next big thing could be - its definitely not yet watch and wearables.

My wager would be AR. We have a few years yet before we see useful, comfortable, well-designed AR environments, but once they cross a certain threshold they'll immediately obsolete a massive section of the computer dislay market, as well as provide numerous opportunities for further innovation. Given that it's a market in which products will succeed or fail based primarily on UX, ease of use, and quality of design, each a strong point of Apple, they have the potential to take the sector by storm.

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I'd rather prefer a chat app that stores all chat history and media on my device instead of some cloud. On my iPhone WeChat starts fine without having the location services permission.

They just need to add automatic chat log pruning. 16GB of 32GB of storage fills quickly.

What the heck kind of group chats are you in that has ~2 billion words in the history?

Re: China smartphone market suffers hard-landing, shipments decline 21% in Q1 2018

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Thing is the Apple Watch is viewed as a status symbol primarily, despite Apple's marketing and messaging stating its a health monitoring/heads up display type device. Many of the people who buy it have no idea that it'll catch some potentially imminently fatal health conditions: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5683089/Apple-Watc... Its impressive how many people buy the Apple Watch without understanding wha…

Apple Watch Alerts New York Man of Health Crisis, Ends Up Saving His Life https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Smart-Watch-Saves-New-...

Sounds like he would've gone to the hospital anyway with those symptoms.
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