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They 'll have a lot less to collect this year with GDRP. Or maybe not
How does GDPR relate to NSA surveillance. . .?
We found out that Verizon -- just Verizon -- was handing over "phone records of millions of Verizon customers daily" in June 2013.
500M might be an official number that they're willing to release but (without any way to prove it, obviously) I'm certain that the REAL number is much, much higher.
For an organization who has vowed to "collect it all", it just doesn't seem likely that the NSA voluntarily went from "an estimated billions of records collected per day" to just 500M per year.
Or perhaps it's just 500M according to their own made up definition of "collect"?
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Right, but what else is the NSA ostensibly carrying out all this domestic espionage for if not to preempt domestic terrorism (which by and large has been dominated by mass shootings in recent years, it's been a bit since we had e.g. a bombing), which by all accounts is at its highest point in recent memory?
Yeah, I mean I'm with you, but again: the NSA is not charged with preventing domestic crimes. It's a foreign intelligence agency.
I think that sums it up.
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>but what else is the NSA ostensibly carrying out all this domestic espionage for if not to preempt domestic terrorism Yeah... foreign terrorism only occurs when foreign entities stand at the border and throw things into our country. LMAO.
Is there a reason you're being so intentionally mean throughout this thread? Take a deep breath, maybe a quick walk around the block. Your points are being lost because your vitriol is so overpowering.
Automatically collecting everyone's cell phone data, has software automatically installed in Smart TV's everywhere, monitors your online footprint (emails, social media[of course]). All those warning from Snowden all those secret software reveals from wikileaks an untold amount of funding from congress with virtually no oversight. And yet tons of bad things keep happening to regular citizens in the US. What exactly d…
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What a horrendously condescending reply. If you want to do any one any good, the least you can do is elaborate.
What is the expectation here? The commenter has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. The arguments are being made are clearly without any understanding of how any intelligence agency operates, and absolute ignorance of the NSA's mandate, much less any actual data about its activities. It's like reading a post by someone bitching about the modern Hollywood blockbuster culture by citing Superman's plot arc i…
What's yours? Is there something to gain from a post that effectively just says "you're wrong"?
This report is, of course, a distraction from their ability to archive historical reality to a resolution 1 mm and 1 ms.
I suspect they're performing a full-take of the call contents as well, just not through the PINWALE/MARINA ingestion system. It's likely commingled with bulk traffic snarfed up by beam splitters at the telcos' NOCs, and separated on-demand from the TEMPORA buffer.
At this point, I'm jaded enough to domestic mass-surveillance, I just want my money's worth. Russia successfully implanted DarkEnergy on domestic SCADA, nation-wide. Do we have that capability abroad? Prioritize foreign retailiatory offense, please!
(hi @NSA if this shows up in XKS!)
What is that as a percentage of the total number of calls?
With 300M people in the US? Of them, at least 250M have phones, so... two calls per person per year? (Double it if both ends of the conversation are in the US.) I'm going to guess that the average is more like four calls per day than four calls per year, so... maybe 0.3% of calls? That's far too many. And yet, it's still a very long way from blanket surveillance.
Quick clarification of what's being discussed here--
What AnimalMuppet has estimated is that someone or some group in the Dept. of Defense has made a request to analyze call metadata, the sum total of which may come to 0.3% of all calls. In other words, that 0.3% reflects the data that has been parsed into a form intelligible for someone or some group working at (or perhaps even sub-contracted by) the DoD.
The amount of call metadata that is available to the NSA for such requests (available either through one of their monstrously large data centers like the one in Utah, or available through one of their many programs that automate access to private companies' metadata) is almost certainly quite close to 100%.
You can read about how common usage terms are redefined in misleading ways by the NSA et al here: