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SquirrelMail is being removed from cPanel
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Re: SquirrelMail is being removed from cPanel
#32Spam domain filters virtually killed self-hosted e-mail and what I presume was their major use case.
I've run my own email out of my closet for close to 20 years and have no problem sending. I think DKIM/SPF probably help a lot, but I really can't say, as I've never been blocked (to my knowledge).
Re: SquirrelMail is being removed from cPanel
#33Suppose one was to write a decent webmail front-end, how exactly does one make enough money to sustain its development, even if it's a one or two person effort? I love open source but there's also a need for developers to live off what they make. Who has successfully made a webmail front end that they could sell?
> Who has successfully made a webmail front end that they could sell?
FastMail, but they had to put a whole service behind it.
Re: SquirrelMail is being removed from cPanel
#34Suppose one was to write a decent webmail front-end, how exactly does one make enough money to sustain its development, even if it's a one or two person effort? I love open source but there's also a need for developers to live off what they make. Who has successfully made a webmail front end that they could sell?
In the specific case of webmail[1], I would offer hosted instances. OTOH, a need to commercialize a FOSS-project is always a latent conflict of interest and I personally only reluctantly make such software part of my stack: I might end up with core devs moving to a proprietary fork full time and not enough other devs to "just fork it". [1] when did this even become a word?
> [1] when did this even become a word?
Around 1996-7? Right around the time that HoTMaiL came about.
Re: SquirrelMail is being removed from cPanel
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the specific case of webmail[1], I would offer hosted instances. OTOH, a need to commercialize a FOSS-project is always a latent conflict of interest and I personally only reluctantly make such software part of my stack: I might end up with core devs moving to a proprietary fork full time and not enough other devs to "just fork it". [1] when did this even become a word?
As to the usage of the word 'webmail', I'd say it's been in techno-parlance for a long time, masquerading as recommended DNS settings. By 'long time', I mean at least since the mid-to-late 90s. I would often see the word -- not in regular writing, but in tutorials, all the time. Setting up a cPanel instance, for example, you would often be instructed to set up your MX records as 'mail.yourdomain.tld', and your CNAME…
There was a time when reading email on the web was not a thing [0]. Reading mail on the web - as a new feature - is "webmail".
Re: SquirrelMail is being removed from cPanel
#36Spam domain filters virtually killed self-hosted e-mail and what I presume was their major use case.
I've run my own email out of my closet for close to 20 years and have no problem sending. I think DKIM/SPF probably help a lot, but I really can't say, as I've never been blocked (to my knowledge).
Same here.
We're a long ways from the days when your machine would come with sendmail running and accepting mail for your FQDN OOTB, though... so it's a little more difficult but certainly not out of reach of anyone who is willing to put into the time and effort to learn how to do it right.
(I plan on moving my mail to a new machine (well. new VMs) over the next few days and I expect to run into nearly no issues doing so. Then again, like rhizome, I've been doing this for ~20 years.)
Re: SquirrelMail is being removed from cPanel
#37I'm honestly surprised to find out that it was still being ahipped.
It was the first webmail application offered at a .edu I worked at and that's been 15 years ago. It was -- or so it seemed -- "dead" then.
Re: SquirrelMail is being removed from cPanel
#38Suppose one was to write a decent webmail front-end, how exactly does one make enough money to sustain its development, even if it's a one or two person effort? I love open source but there's also a need for developers to live off what they make. Who has successfully made a webmail front end that they could sell?
https://www.mailpile.is/
“Community funded and supported”
Re: SquirrelMail is being removed from cPanel
#39Roundcube is good enough. The only problem with my cPanel-powered shared hosting is that filtering isn't part of the Roundcube application but is taken care of by another cPanel app(let). I'd rather have it all in Roundcube.
Roundcube doesn't handle large inboxes well. Squirrelmail had this nice option where I could set a BCC for every email - I BCC all my emails to myself (hack to get around another problem). Roundcube has no such option. In my experience, I have seen no benefit that Roundcube has (feature-wise) other than being prettier.
How .... large?
I thought my 50k-70k inbox was huge, but I just typically order by date reversed ...
Re: SquirrelMail is being removed from cPanel
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the specific case of webmail[1], I would offer hosted instances. OTOH, a need to commercialize a FOSS-project is always a latent conflict of interest and I personally only reluctantly make such software part of my stack: I might end up with core devs moving to a proprietary fork full time and not enough other devs to "just fork it". [1] when did this even become a word?
> [1] when did this even become a word? Around 1996-7? Right around the time that HoTMaiL came about.
Fun trivia, it was built on pretty much 100% freebsd, before Microsoft acquired it.