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De-Googling my phone

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Re: De-Googling my phone

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How do you find it when communicating with people who don't share your ethos, say those heavily invested in Whatsapp, or another platform to which there is no F/OSS compatible client.

you can use whatsapp without gapps

But backup, at least in the past, did require gapps

Re: De-Googling my phone

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post #128

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> If you want, you can build and sign your own apps and put them on your device on an iPhone. HA! Sure. For $100 a year. And from a Mac. > I presume you’re talking about the headphone jack, which google followed up by removing from their pixel phone 12 months later? Why does apple get the hate here and not google? Because Pixel is not the only choice one has inside the Android ecosystem, as opposed to iOS one? Samsun…

You can actually now self-sign apps without being a developer now. There is a caveat however, you have to resign it every seven days. Edit: I also want to say there’s a limit to the amount of apps you can do this with. It’s not a great solution, but I have a feeling it’s as good as we’ll ever get.

My point exactly... ;)

Re: De-Googling my phone

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It is sad that in is 2018, we know full well that there are serious privacy implications, and yet we have no good choices for really protecting ourselves and our interests because corporations want it that way.

Re: De-Googling my phone

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I am adopting a different approach. It seems likely that I may not be able to de-BigBrother myself without tremendous efforts. There are all kinds of devils out there, why not at least sell the soul only to a single devil? So I am going all Google. Nothing else. I exclusively use all their products (even Google+). I don't have FB, Twitter etc. Google is the devil I have sold my soul to.

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Re: De-Googling my phone

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Your increased trust in these stores is motivated by .... what governance and audit structure? yes, its a devils-advocate position. You might (for instance) have high trust because you know them from hacker traeff you've been on, f2f. I can't have this a-priori knowledge. From here, this looks no better than "trust google" and in some dimensions looks significantly worse. Of course for the primary goal of "distrust g…

Both the Android and Apple app stores have become so riddled with race to the bottom crap that I trust them much, much less than the wild west of old when there were no stores at all, and you just grabbed exes from random websites or BBSes.

Re: De-Googling my phone

#146

I am adopting a different approach. It seems likely that I may not be able to de-BigBrother myself without tremendous efforts. There are all kinds of devils out there, why not at least sell the soul only to a single devil? So I am going all Google. Nothing else. I exclusively use all their products (even Google+). I don't have FB, Twitter etc. Google is the devil I have sold my soul to.

Doesn't matter which drain you go down, they all go to the sewer!

Surely once Google sell your data, or access to it, then you're in no better position than of above else were selling it? Google release it into the wild, presumably, just like other companies do.

Re: De-Googling my phone

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post #6

Your increased trust in these stores is motivated by .... what governance and audit structure? yes, its a devils-advocate position. You might (for instance) have high trust because you know them from hacker traeff you've been on, f2f. I can't have this a-priori knowledge. From here, this looks no better than "trust google" and in some dimensions looks significantly worse. Of course for the primary goal of "distrust g…

Something I haven't yet understood -- why hasn't a ~Debian of Android-compatible phones emerged? Are we lacking a UI? Kernel? Apps? Interest? Interface with existing closed-source apps? Is stock Android too good?

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Re: De-Googling my phone

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post #119

Am I the only one that is weirded out by out-of-context images of people especially faces?

It's a photo of the author next to their name. It's not "out-of-context".

Yes but I'm interested in the content of the article, not how the author looks like. Especially not if his head is almost 33% of the window height.

And also in general. I often see articles where there really are completely random images in them to fluff things up... Like "Oh you're reading some technical article? Here have some people sitting on a bench eating ice cream!" Why?

Re: De-Googling my phone

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post #105

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> "Google’s ecosystem" Off topic. Using F-Droid, you don't need to touch Google's ecosystem.

> Off topic. Using F-Droid, you don't need to touch Google's ecosystem. Absolutely. I still don't get why I can't compile and deploy my own apps on my own devices without paying Apple $99 a year. I thought it was really cool that you can deploy apps you compile yourself on your device out of the app store without paying the $99 yearly fee but apparently that's not the case. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=free%20provis…

> I thought it was really cool that you can deploy apps you compile yourself on your device out of the app store without paying the $99 yearly fee but apparently that's not the case.

That is the case.

Re: De-Googling my phone

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post #149
post #105

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> Off topic. Using F-Droid, you don't need to touch Google's ecosystem. Absolutely. I still don't get why I can't compile and deploy my own apps on my own devices without paying Apple $99 a year. I thought it was really cool that you can deploy apps you compile yourself on your device out of the app store without paying the $99 yearly fee but apparently that's not the case. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=free%20provis…

> I thought it was really cool that you can deploy apps you compile yourself on your device out of the app store without paying the $99 yearly fee but apparently that's not the case. That is the case.

It's the case as long as you manually recompile them once a week when the code signing cert expires. It is deliberately impractical to actually distribute apps this way.
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