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De-Googling my phone

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Re: De-Googling my phone

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I have been running non-stock ROMs for a while now (specifically AOSP Extended, on my Samsung S7 Edge) and ny main issues have been related to reliability/stability, primarily in what I assume is the device drivers' area. Camera freezes phone or gives shitty pictures, microphone not working, etc, etc. This is nearly enough to cause me to go back to stock. However, I do see the number of ROMs built for my phone has in…

LineageOS is my go-to, FWIW.

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Isn't it ironic that lineage is still basically Google? I get a bit of solace knowing it's open source... But I certainly won't be crawling through the code and compiling. I hope others do...

> Isn't it ironic that lineage is still basically Google?

Could you not say the same about any Android ROM?

Re: De-Googling my phone

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I used k9mail for awhile until I realized it had sent every temporary draft of an email as I revised something and changed between apps. Was super embarrassing. Hard to trust it now even though the ui seemed great.

Original author of K-9 here. I haven’t been involved in the project for some time, but my recollection is that any time we investigated this issue, we found that the issue was GMail displaying multiple drafts to the sender as having been sent, not actually sending the drafts via SMTP. (That’s what the bug reference in a reply to this comment is about)

Yes I actually faced this exact bug myself a week ago. What happened was - my mobile app gmail displayed my draft as sent (but actually I have already completed it and send it using desktop web app), but when double checked on desktop, it indeed actually send my completed email, not the draft.

I tried restarting the app/ refresh email threads, but it didn't fix the visual bug. I'm not sure if the bug is still present today as the email thread has been buried down and I couldn't care enough to follow up on it. I'm just glad it didn't actually send my draft when somehow the app displayed my draft version as sent.

Note that I'm not a user of K9, I'm just describing similar buggy encounter with Gmail desktop and its android app. I only noticed this that one time and just shrug it off due to me turning off apps auto update. Usually I only update manually when I really think I need to and after carefully reading each change logs.

Re: De-Googling my phone

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> Same for Mozzila. I'm out of the loop, what happened with Mozilla?

S/he means the pre-Firefox Mozilla browser suite that was abandoned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Application_Suite

Surely Firefox OS? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS

Re: De-Googling my phone

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It is dead. Someone forked it. I'm sorry but I can't trust some random team with almost zero funding to write my everyday os. Ubuntu phone died when Canonical dropped it. Same for Mozilla. It's a shame and kind of bizarre that Google can go on without any competition, but without the hardware manufacturers cooperating this isn't working out. We need open hardware for this to work.

> Same for Mozzila. I'm out of the loop, what happened with Mozilla?

They used to work on a mobile OS called FirefoxOS, but they gave up on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Cons: You end up in Apple's high walled closed source garden. And have to deal with whatever they remove from the next iteration of the device based on their whims and fancies. And the exorbitant price tag.

> You end up in Apple's high walled closed source garden. Google’s ecosystem is just as negative as apples walled garden. If you want, you can build and sign your own apps and put them on your device on an iPhone. > And have to deal with whatever they remove from the next iteration of the device based on their whims and fancies. I presume you’re talking about the headphone jack, which google followed up by removing f…

> "Google’s ecosystem"

Off topic. Using F-Droid, you don't need to touch Google's ecosystem.

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Maybe I can help, I have written this in google context, but it is general privacy enabled configuration. This is what I am using: https://lineage.microg.org/ (get rid of google play (and save 1/3 of battery)) apps have a dependancies to google framework and just not having it breaks lots of stuff (this is google true vendor lock-in). Microg is opensource reimplementation of it, but it needs patches into android to f…

Nice summary, thanks. Do you think, that there is a chance to get Google Hangouts running with microG? It's required by my current employer unfortunately.

Try it. Once you have TWRP on your phone, you can backup your whole phone (including ROM) to SD card and later revert it back if it doesn't work.

I can't tell without installing and I have strict policy of no google / facebook (actually anything related with social media) apps on my phone. Or try to find OSS alternative

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Missing option: Apple iPhone. Just works, aggressive security team.

Cons: You end up in Apple's high walled closed source garden. And have to deal with whatever they remove from the next iteration of the device based on their whims and fancies. And the exorbitant price tag.

And no headphone jack.

I would have switched to iPhone if it weren't for that.

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cons: You end up in Apple's high walled closed source garden. And have to deal with whatever they remove from the next iteration of the device based on their whims and fancies. And the exorbitant price tag.

> You end up in Apple's high walled closed source garden. Google’s ecosystem is just as negative as apples walled garden. If you want, you can build and sign your own apps and put them on your device on an iPhone. > And have to deal with whatever they remove from the next iteration of the device based on their whims and fancies. I presume you’re talking about the headphone jack, which google followed up by removing f…

"Google's ecosystem" is Android, not just their overpriced pixel phones, so Google get hate in some quarters for losing the headphone socket but it's not an Android thing. You can pay a few hundred pounds for a perfectly good Android phone and run as-is or replace with a true open source alternative, with headphone sockets (so no need to turn your lossless files into a streamed lossy mess courtesy of Bluetooth). I pay £9 for 4 gigs of data. In no way is Apple anything like at parity with Android here. With Android you choose what you pay and what you get. I'm bored of phones and apps now, so I'm out of the "spend a grand every two years/£50+ a month for an average camera and the ability to choose to install about 15 of the 17 million apps out there" game but if that's your thing there's a phone for you. With a headphone socket.
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